Subj : Re: Since we're talking about Lenovo Thinkpads...... To : All From : gfretwell@aol.com Date : Thu Jan 31 2019 19:16:25 Path: eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.o rg!tncsrv06.tnetconsulting.net!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!feeder.usen etexpress.com!feeder-in1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com! nntp.giganews.com!buffer1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-f or-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 23:49:14 -0600 From: gfretwell@aol.com Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general Subject: Re: Since we're talking about Lenovo Thinkpads...... Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 00:49:05 -0500 Message-ID: References: <2g3d6mUuocDaFwPs@soft255.demon.co.uk> <223s0dl4nttg0kha59dj1c8be9cnokpgd5@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.91/32.564 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 53 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-Q1CpsOMrYHnYpasKKWIjIAyFA4aWHbiT3fuQYX/Bgkcggc4Jyz653a6ZzUF1PLovZhxcshzTq3e nwmS!wbCHxszmCWsKcKnE1Y6NlcqBahPAbDRPOvcokGeuaUAuEFuUHRXctgFluRUiaMsZoeZtAFw= X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 3765 Xref: feeder.eternal-september.org microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:134605 On Fri, 17 Nov 2017 05:07:07 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote: >In message , >gfretwell@aol.com writes: >>On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 22:22:59 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" >> wrote: >> >>>In message <223s0dl4nttg0kha59dj1c8be9cnokpgd5@4ax.com>, >>>gfretwell@aol.com writes: >[] >>>>on it. In real life MS doesn't really seem to care about XP anymore >>>>anyway. They will authenticate anything with a valid number. >>>>Mine all say "genuine microsoft" or words to that effect. >>> >>>One does wonder why they continue to do that. >> >>I suspect maintaining the old server that tried to track hardware >>changes and then had people sitting by the phone to reconcile the >>differences was not worth it for a software package they were not > >Oh, sure; I meant, I'm not sure why they're continuing to authenticate >at all. > >>selling anymore. They certainly do not want to say they will breach >>the EULA contract and abandon their customers after a while. > >Why not though? Obviously, I'm happy that they _are_ continuing to >authenticate, just wondering why. I think they believe there is no future in the reputation you get from being the richest guy in the world and breaching a contract on a product they sold in good faith. There is no expiration date in the Eula we all signed. I suspect that the cost of simply authenticating anything with a valid COA number is preferable to promoting piracy tools. There is no shortage of people who have cracked the authentification When I thought that server was finally pulled down it took about a minute on google to find a hack. Before I actually tried one, I remembered I had not loaded SP3. When I did it sailed through. >>That is why they want to migrate to the subscription model with a hard >>drop dead date if you don't keep paying, getting away from a lifetime >>sale. > >Indeed. I don't think even W10 has got to that yet, but the >can't-block-updates (for most people with moderate or low computer >skills, anyway) is certainly moving towards that. 10 seems to clearly be priming that market to subscription services, at least that is what I hear. I am just starting to dabble with 7, mostly because there are streaming services that are getting clunky or don't work at all with XP. My only 7 machine is hooked to the TV. --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.1 * Origin: Prison Board BBS Mesquite Tx //telnet.RDFIG.NET www. (1:124/5013) .