Subj : Re: Cloning a 2.5" IDE/PATA Laptop Hard drive To : All From : james@nospam.com Date : Thu Jan 31 2019 19:16:21 Path: eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.o rg!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: james@nospam.com Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general Subject: Re: Cloning a 2.5" IDE/PATA Laptop Hard drive Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 08:36:04 -0600 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 94 Message-ID: <1fio0d9pouhfijehel9a2ludovp9p1a6n5@4ax.com> References: <9gka0d55a85fgg6d62v76qacjftdvtei72@4ax.com> <4guk0dlh6o7unn70mmc9obbvc024msfri3@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: TKghX/mglWkVW1qxlGBsyg.user.gioia.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 2.0/32.652 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: feeder.eternal-september.org microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:134550 On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 21:36:20 -0500, Paul wrote: > >As a connoisseur of dialup, I'm sure you know this >already. Initially, there were two competing standards. >The standards body tried to combine them, making V90. The >idea was, you could get a firmware upgrade, to bring your >model to V90. > > X2 ___ > \___ V90 > K56 ___/ > >Well, what happened ? Instead of unification, the modem >and front end still had to match for best results. This is >why I had two modems, a Supra for K56 and a USR for X2. Then, >it depended on whether I was dialing into work, or dialing >into Freenet, as to which modem worked best. If I used the >wrong modem, the result could be the "spiral of death". > > V90 with an X2 ___ > > V90 with a K56 ___ > >The spiral of death, is a kind of negotiation failure. The >initial connection might be at 46K (i.e. a bit too high), >Over a period of minutes, transmission errors would pile up, >and the protocol would seek to adjust the properties to >compensate. The effective transmission rate was no longer >46K. It might take around 10 to 15 minutes, but the rate >would drop and drop, until there wasn't enough bandwidth to >do keep-alive on PPP. And the modem pool would hang up. >The protocol did not appear to have any ability to >"open the line up again", if line quality improved. It >would just go down and down, until the line dropped. > >Now, the standard the Supra uses, at some point I no longer >had any of those to dial into. So the Supra collected dust. >I lost my last dialup a couple years ago (Freenet wants at >least $25 a year to keep an account on dialup), and I finally >put the USR away as well. I used to use FreeNet, to check the >ADSL status page at my ISP, when my ADSL wasn't working. It >was better to do that, than to phone the support number and >listen to Abba for 40 minutes until someone would pick up and >tell me how broken things were. > >You *can* improve your lot in life to 5KB/sec. But >the last few times I used dialup, it was a living hell. >As even the most innocent web page, is megabytes of crap. >Everything ends up taking an hour to do. Tuning up the >dialup modem, won't make it heroic. Yea, I know all about the spiral of death issue. That is the main reason I only use Win98 on the internet. Whether it's XP or Windows 2000, both of them suffer badly from that Spiral of death shit badly. But Win98 dont. I spent many hours of time trying to fix this years ago, and it was all a waste of time. I finally just accepted that I will never be able to use dialup with any OS other than Win98. Using Win98 is not a problem in itself, except that I cant use a modern browser and that makes connecting to many of the new websites impossible. I do wonder if getting a different brand of modem would help though. I have always used USR modems. Is the Supra a decent brand? I know that some brands I used many years ago, were crappy modems. One brand that comes to mind is Cardinal. That was a piece of shit. I refuse to even try any more tests and configurations. That nearly drove me bonkers back when I tried. But I might consider buying another modem/brand if that might help. They can often be bought on ebay for little money, since few people use modems any more. I just bought another identical USR modem on ebay for about $15. I just bought it so I have a spare, because I have lost several of them in the past from lightning. But that has not happened lately because I unplug the phone line at all times when I am not using the computer, and if a storm is approaching, I unplug that phone line right away. Does Supra make an external modem? I only use externals and they have to be serial port type, because as you know, USB is lousy on Win98, and I hate internal modems. Once I tried to connect using Linux, and wondered if that would not get the spiral of death, but I am not a Linux person. and never will be. I have a few older versions of Linux on bootable flash drives but that's just for emergency booting of XP is something goes wrong and I need to access my data. As long as I dont have to use the linux command line, I can copy data. But that about all I do with linux. I think a lot of the problems is my ISP. They have pretty much abandoned the dialup, but they know that some of us rural people cant connect any other way. so they keep a few modems running for those of us who have a landline from them. Where I live, I must have a landline because my cellphone dont get a signal. --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.1 * Origin: Prison Board BBS Mesquite Tx //telnet.RDFIG.NET www. (1:124/5013) .