Subj : Re: Cloning a 2.5" IDE/PATA Laptop Hard drive To : All From : G6JPG-255@255soft.uk Date : Thu Jan 31 2019 19:16:21 Path: eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org !.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "J. P. Gilliver (John)" Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general Subject: Re: Cloning a 2.5" IDE/PATA Laptop Hard drive Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2017 12:46:05 +0000 Organization: 255 software Lines: 77 Message-ID: References: <2e49F9HceGAaFw0R@soft255.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="6bde7923b02edf652bd5a635f0d27085"; logging-data="30787"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18s7xnT1NOIdj19LV5rofag" User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-M () Cancel-Lock: sha1:YdkI2Xi2jAJm5V6m+ESFEKWQV88= Xref: news.eternal-september.org microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:134455 In message , Some Guy writes: >J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: > >>> Go get yourself a copy of Norton Ghost 2003. >> >> Or get a copy of Macrium or Acronis, > >If the computer has a working floppy drive, and you can manage to >create a working copy of Ghost on it, then there is nothing easier than >booting a system from floppy vs messing around with CD drives and bios >settings, as well as trying to figure out how to connect 3 IDE devices >(2 drives and 1 CD drive) and getting everything to work. On the whole, you are probably right. Though there may still be some "messing around with BIOS settings" required if it isn't set to boot from floppy first. > >And in my experience, the other CD-based programs can frequently not >generate a bootable clone. I've cloned over 100 drives from a handful >of different XP-SP2 and SP3 master drives using Ghost. They work more often than not though. Just out of curiosity, why have you cloned so many from "a handful"? > >If you want to use a CD-based drive copy program, get your hands on a >copy of Hiren's BootCD and putz around with the various software on it. Is that going to be either easier or better than Macrium or Acronis? (Or does Hiren include one or both of those?) > >Potential problems with going the Ghost route is getting a working >combination of floppy drive and floppy disk. Over time both seem to go >bad, bad sectors, alignment problems, dust, etc. CDs can deteriorate too, although - especially if not written at maximum speed - less so than floppies. > >>> Copy will happen at anywhere from 800 mb/sec to maybe double that, >>>depending on how new / fast the motherboard is. > >Correction - 800 mb/minute. Two IDE drives on a Pentium-4 PC. > >When cloning sata-to-sata on a Core2 motherboard I can typically get >3500 mb/minute. > >>> There'a a program called xpinfo.exe that will tell you >> Any idea where to get that? > >I just checked here: > >http://www.licenturion.com/xp/xpinfo-exe.zip > Thanks for that. Incidentally, xpinfo doesn't work with OEM (or VLK). [] >By the way, this is where you can get Ghost 2003: > >http://www.dslreports.com/r0/download/265545~688de4fa5cfd7a3653cce1c3f14 >7b3d4/GHOST_BOOTx.zip Thanks for that too. I've downloaded both. > >> Don't the votes regenerate after a period (120 days or some such), to >>allow people to upgrade/repair their PC? > >Yes, a system that hasn't tried to re-validate itself in the past 120 >days should be in the clear to do it again, but I think the risk is too >high if you can avoid it. The risk that your product key has, for >what-ever reason, been added to Micro$haft's black-list of keys. Does XPinfo (on machines where it works!) cover this, or only compare the system to how it was at (last) activation? (Or original activation?) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf To keep leaf vegetables clean and crisp, cook lightly, then plunge into iced water (the vegetables, that is). - manual for a Russell Hobbs electric steamer --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.1 * Origin: Prison Board BBS Mesquite Tx //telnet.RDFIG.NET www. (1:124/5013) .