Subj : Thank you Libertarians. To : ALL From : BOB KLAHN Date : Tue Aug 12 2014 09:38:00 Libertarian is the least definable political philosophy I can think of. It pretty much means what ever the speaker wants it to. Typically self described libertarians say the only purpose of government is to protect the nation from invaders and criminals. More recently some have boiled that down to preventing violent attacks. What they cannot explain is, just how does any society survive when there is no government agency enforcing laws against non-violent crime? How does a society survive when there is no non-violent crime? If snake oil salesmen have the right to sell anything with no regard to honesty, when no one has to keep a contract, when there are no standards of conduct other than don't hit people, what kind of society can survive? It's even non-violent if the neighbors decide to use your front lawn as the city dump, so how does a libertarian government prevent that? Well, now we are seeing the blessings of libertarian thinking, and it's expensive. The Toledo Ohio area had half a million people without drinking water for three days because of algae growing excessively in Lake Erie. Turns out this is a world wide phenomena, and is the result of excess phosophorus in the water. The excess phosophorus comes from fertilizer run off, as a known cause, and fossil fuel production as a secondary, suggested cause. Libertarian thinking says the government has no business regulating fertilizer usage to reduce run off, after all, it isn't a violent act. Yet the cost is paid by the people downstream, and without some control that cost can be fatal. So, now are we going to have to fight the libertarians when we try to reduce fertilizer run off? Or are they going to let their beliefs just lie dormant when it's inconvenient to defend them? Seems this is the best objection to libertarianism, at least the current brand, you will find. BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn .... Libertarians don't build bridges. * Silver Xpress V4.5/P [Reg] --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5 * Origin: Fidonet In Your Language > DocsPlace.org (1:123/140) .