Subj : Re: Knockout Game To : Lee Lofaso From : alexander koryagin Date : Tue Jul 15 2014 14:12:18 Hi, Lee Lofaso! I read your message from 14.07.2014 16:51 LL>>>> May we all live in a land of idiots. GH>>> I'm sure we already do. :) "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, GH>>> the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, it's inherent GH>>> virtue is the equal sharing of misery" Winston Churchill AK>> But capitalism is the unequal sharing of welfare and creating AK>> misery and slaves artificially. ;-) LF> The "cesspool capitalism" that Karl Marx described was very real in LF> his day, but fortunately for all is a thing of the past. OK, now you are prefer to exploit the barefoot misery from Thailand, Philippines, Malaysia etc. But the rule remains -- you must not allow misery to vanish, or it will be the end for you. Capitalism needs misery as a human body needs blood, as a battery cell needs two electrodes. AK>> If they will be out of it, it will be a nightmare scenario and the AK>> end of the potential difference that is necessary for survival of AK>> the capitalistic system. LF> And what kind of economic system will you replace it with? Assuming LF> you had the power to do so. Would it be a blast to the past, with a LF> "pure" form of feudalism such as the time when we had kings, LF> nobles, lords, and serfs? Would it be a personality cult, such as LF> Marlon Brando in Apocalypse Now, Josef Stalin in the USSR, Marshall LF> Tito in Yugoslavia, Mao Tse Tung in China, or Adolf Hitler in Nazi LF> Germany? Well, to answer this question you should read books about future. I mean science-fiction novels. Tell me what the people dream of, and I'll tell you who they are. The science-fiction in the West is mainly based on paranoid ideas about the end of the world -- you cannot imagine anything instead of it. You cannot image that your civilization can have some bright future. Vise versa, people from former Socialist countries saw a great vista where their countries could move on. The idea is simple -- a system and order at the state level are always more effective that anarchy of the free market. Just remember -- when the US wanted to beat the USSR during the Moon race they didn't expect that private business could solve such a great task. Actually, the US started working in the manner of the USSR -- it created a huge _state_ Moon program, planning, financing etc. Planning economy in this case proved brightly its effectiveness. So the conclusion -- the planning economy, if it is realized not by fools, is always more effective than private business. The future is for this economy. The US has no future (unless it becomes Socialist country ;-)) , but China with its state economy has a great future. It has put the private business where it should be -- at low level like service stuff, shops etc. The main task such countries as Russia, Chine must solve - is how to defend the state machinery from idiots and cretins. The most effective way we see now in China -- its Communist party doesn't rely any more upon Great Leaders like Stalin, Mao Zedong etc. State decisions are made by many, not very old, clever people who think about all people, not only rich. That is why a huge ship the "China" runs so fast in the world waters. Bye, Lee! Alexander Koryagin fido7.debate 2014 --- FIDOGATE 5.1.7ds * Origin: Pushkin's BBS (2:5020/2140.2) .