Subj : War and pieces of eight. To : ALL From : BOB KLAHN Date : Thu Apr 24 2014 20:58:46 Before the civil war the national debt was quite low, the war drove it up. Before WWI the debt fell from the Civil War high to 2.5% of GDP. That in the range where it could have been paid off easily. Before the Great Depression the national debt had fallen to 16% of GDP. By the beginning of WWII it had gone up to 50% of GDP, and during the war went up to 122% of GDP. Through all that the wars drove the dept up, and after the war the debt went down. After WWII the dollar amount of the debt went up, but the debt to GDP ratio went down. From Reagan on three tax hating republican presidents ran the debt up from 33% of GDP to 85%. That inspite of Clinton knocking 9 points off that increase. Obama inherited a debt of $11.7 Trillion, and 85% of GDP (Aprox). On top of that he inherited an economic disaster that turned out to be a depression. A depression is pretty much guaranteed to run up the debt, Yet Obama has held it down to just over 100% of GDP, while reducing the deficit faster than any president in decades, and recovering the jobs lost in the original fall. The problem now is, the republicans are blocking any attempt to pull the economy out of it's hole. Might be winning politics, but it's a loser for the country, a loser for the American people. Now we have military challenges all over the world, and no money to fight a war. It was bad enough to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan, but if we have to take on Russia, in a purely conventional war, the cost will be horrendous. I've never been a conspiracy theorist, but damn, you gotta wonder. If you wanted to bankrupt America, if you wanted to break this country, can you think of a better way to do it than running up our debt to the point where any major military action is likely to bankrupt us? Not just bankrupt us, but leaving our national wealth committed to paying off debts that go to making companies like Goldman Sachs richer, the .1% richer, and even those who "contest" with us richer. How much harder is it getting to be confident that this isn't a conspiracy to destroy this country? BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn .... The Law of Unintended Consequences carries it own penalties... --- Via Silver Xpress V4.5/P [Reg] * Origin: Fidonet Since 1991 bbs.docsnetservices.com (1:123/140) .