Subj : Social Security Going Bro To : EARL CROASMUN From : BOB KLAHN Date : Wed Feb 06 2036 11:45:48 ... >> As I went into once before, the budget is not what we are really >> talking about, that's just a convenient term. What we are >> talking about is actual spending. Since maturing bonds are paid >> off, whether by tax money or borrowed money, your point is >> lacking accuracy. >> If we pay off the mature bonds out of revenue, then that >> requires balance, not surplus. EC> It is sometimes difficult to know when you are pretending EC> to be ignorant and when you really are ignorant on a given As I have shown in my previous respone, you are demonstrating incredible levels of ignorance. EC> subject. If current spending and current revenue remain in EC> exact balance for the next fifty years, the amount of debt EC> will remain the same for the next fifty years. If you are Do you ever do a budget for you own spending? Did you ever borrow money to buy a car or a house? Your car and mortgage payments are counted as spending in your budget. EC> ten thousand dollars in debt, and you spend your whole EC> paycheck every month, you will remain ten thousand dollars EC> in debt. You have to make more or spend less to pay down EC> the debt. If you spend your whole paycheck every month you will pay off your debt if you, properly, account for your debt payments under spending. If you don't, your creditors will demand payment with penalties. If you don't believe me, just ask any accountant, or budget planning advisor. Or a real economist. >> Paying off some mature bonds from revenue rather than borrowing >> reduces the debt at a slower rate that paying them all out of >> revenue, but it does reduce the debt. EC> To do that requires a surplus of revenue over spending. EC> What part of this are you pretending to not understand? Paying off bonds is spending. What part of that are you really not understanding? Or do you think there is some magic involved when it comes to the federal debt? Maybe that explains why you believed in Reagan. BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn --- Via Silver Xpress V4.5/P [Reg] * Origin: Fidonet Since 1991 Join Us: www.DocsPlace.org (1:123/140) .