Subj : Re: Still holding the fort. To : Lee Lofaso From : alexander koryagin Date : Tue Aug 20 2013 10:06:39 Hi, Lee Lofaso! I read your message from 18.08.2013 02:53 about Still holding the fort.. JF>>> need road signs every ten feet are left confused. Piece of art? JF>>> Are we having a discussion or admiring text? ak>> A discussion text must look nice, too. Especially, a good quoting ak>> is important when a discussion is written by many persons. In this ak>> case it is important to see clearly the authorship of every ak>> paragraph, every line, because it is very important to shorten ak>> opponents phases as much as possible, so that all the discussion ak>> was before your eyes. That is why, despite what you had said, you ak>> cannot find in web forums an example of a long, deep, clever ak>> discussion -- only the discussions that sound like dog's barking ak>> or sparrow's twitting. LL> The form of debate most frequently used in fidonet forums is LL> didactic, rather than a true discussion or exchange of ideas in LL> essay form. The software used makes it easy to quote and delete LL> whatever text one wants to include or exclude. I am not saying that LL> this is the best form of debate. Only that it is the most LL> convenient, given the software and means of communication. It is not a superb form, but if we compare it with web forum discussions it is a much better form. ak>> In other words, the conferences like this one is an ideal place ak>> for discussions. LL> It can be. Not that it is. Much is dependent on the participants LL> themselves. Along with the moderator/facilitator. It depends mostly on how long participants are keen to discuss something. Actually, an average person lives in discussion echos several years an then gets bored. Then a new generation must come. If it doesn't come it means that the process is either difficult or a young generation doesn't need deep, good quoted discussions at all. Probably it hasn't free time because they play around the clock. Although, BTW, in the Internet there are a lot of dead forums, too. ak>> But unfortunately people on Earth have changed. LL> We eat better. We put on nicer clothes. Most men shave, along with LL> some women. People continue to have sex, with others as well as LL> themselves. And sometimes within oh never mind there are no gays LL> and lesbians in Russia... Why, there are a lot of them; it is not a crime in Russia, I assure you. Bye, Lee! Alexander Koryagin fido7.debate 2013 --- FIDOGATE 5.1.7ds * Origin: Pushkin's BBS (2:5020/2140.2) .