Subj : More Abortion Atrocit
To   : BILL MCGARRITY
From : BOB KLAHN
Date : Sun Sep 27 1987 15:21:50


BM>> John, with all due respect, if you weren't forced to pay to the
BM>> government your
BM>> money, what would you expect from the government when it comes to basic
BM>> infrastructure... ie. roads, transportation, police, fire, national
BM>> defense,
BM>> etc...

JM>> I think you just about covered it. Feeding the poor is NOT included on
JM>> my list.

BM>>So, again with all respect, you're still expecting all those services to
BM>>be provided to you without paying the government?  Is that correct?

 TR> Feeding the poor is one thing IF its done voluntarily, and
 TR> it doesn't stretch into other things.

 Of course, if it doesn't happen at all he has no problem with it.

 TR> The government has a habit of stretching things into areas
 TR> where taxpayer money doesn't belong.

 Like invading Iraq. And if the right wing has their way attacking Iran.

 TR> `Welfare' was intended as a temporary aid to help people
 TR> until they could help themselves. What it became was a way
 TR> of life, and passed from generation to generation. And I
 TR> KNOW that last to be an absolute fact!

 What he "KNOWS" is questionable. I *KNOW* the policy of the Federal
 Reserve Board, which is an agency of the US Government no matter what
 anyone says about it being independent, is to fight inflation with
 policies they know will keep people unemployed, keep people poor and in
 need.

 I *KNOW* poverty has gone down since WWII under democrats, and up under
 republicans. I *KNOW* the debt to GDP ratio went down under every
 president from WWII till 2009 except three anti-tax Republicans, Reagan,
 Bush and Bush.

 I seriously *SUSPECT* the republicans are deliberately keeping the debt
 up to force the govt to cut spending on successful and popular programs.

 They want to end all government efforts to educate and make available
 employment for a lot of US citizens. They want to break the governments
 support of an educational system that, before Bush, had the highest
 educational attainment ranking in the world, except for Canada which tied
 us. They want to destroy Social Security and Medicare, two of the most
 popular and successful programs in this country's history.

 Oh, and before Welfare "Reform" in the mid '90s the records showed 90% of
 all welfare recipients got off welfare on their own, got into the private
 sector. Only a smaller percentage stayed on welfare, and their is no
 evidence that most of their children did not get off welfare. Those who
 did not were not given the education and opportunity to get a job in the
 private sector.


BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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