Subj : Nazi's and stuff
To   : Alan Ianson
From : alexander koryagin
Date : Thu May 19 2022 11:12:13

Hi, Alan Ianson!
I read your message from 17.05.2022 18:19

  AI>>> What monument has been taken down?
  ak>> For the last 8 years there have been demolished hundreds of
  ak>> monuments to Red Army soldiers who saved the world from German
  ak>> Nazi.

  AI> I'm sure you are aware I am sure that there were many allied
  AI> countries fighting the nazi's.

  ak>> Everyday many monuments are vandalized,

  AI> What monuments? Give me an idea so I can look it up and see what
  AI> you are talking about.

If you think that Russians like to collect such videos you are mistaken. 
Just believe me that they extremely hate exactly the fallen Red Army 
soldiers and glorify national Nazi collaborators. The current situation 
with Ukraine is just a pretext, and the situation was the same before 
the Ukrainian events.

  ak>> the veteran Hitlerite collaborators are now proudly march along
  ak>> the streets in Ukraine and Baltic states. The current authority of
  ak>> this states discriminates everything connected with Russian
  ak>> people.

  AI> There are no Hitlerite collaborators in any of the sates you
  AI> mention. Why do you feel such a victim?

Every year you can see the marches of those old guys, whereas the 
monuments to Red Army soldiers are removed shamelessly. For every symbol 
of the USSR victory you will be fined.

  AI> The closest thing to a nazi today in the Russian Federtion and it's
  AI> invasion of Ukraine, although it's different.

Don't mix the notions. A Nazi doctrine is always based on the supremacy 
of a particular nation in a particular country. Like "Ukraine is for a 
Ukrainian nation". Fascism is a totalitarian style of power -- it can be 
in any country. Besides, fascism is also exists in Ukraine now -- all 
the opposition was accused in connections with Russia and banned.

  AI>>> I know that there was some kind of monument taken down in Kyiv
  AI>>> recently that was something about the friendship between Russia
  AI>>> and Ukraine. That is not about Hitler. That was because of the
  AI>>> Russian invasion of Ukraine. I think that ended the friendship
  AI>>> between Russia and Ukraine.

  ak>> You think too good about them,
  AI> Why should I think bad of them?

They burned people alive during WW2, they did it in 2014, they have been 
shelling Donbass for 8 years. They want to treat Russians in Ukraine as 
a conquered nation.

  ak>>> and it is not your guilt that you know nothing about the war with
  ak>>> Red Army WW2 monuments.

  AI> I know that Russia suffered much loss in WW2 at the hands of the
  AI> nazi's. Ukraine was part of Russia at the time and they also fought
  AI> the nazi's and suffered much loss.

The modern Ukraine heroes fought on Hitler side, it is not a secret.

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  ak>> The most indicative is the fact that they have not been so anxious
  ak>> for the last 8 years of the Donbass siege. The coup in Kiev in
  ak>> 2014 was directed against Russia and it was an indulgence to
  ak>> whatever neo-Nazi did in Donbass.

  AI> There was no coup. There was a popular uprising when Yanukovych
  AI> went against the will of the people.

Yanukovich had tens of millions supporters and he was removed exactly by 
a coup. Now these people are intimidated and they are afraid to tell 
anything against the current Ukraine regime. Soon we see the real state 
of things -- whom those people will blame for distraction of their land 
-- fucking unwanted defenders from the nationalistic battalions or the 
liberators from the defenders. It probably will be fun.

Bye, Alan!
Alexander Koryagin
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