Subj : Re: obamas gun fight To : alexander koryagin From : Tim Richardson Date : Wed Jan 13 2016 13:37:18 > Hi, Tim Richardson! > I read your message from 10.01.2016 16:57 > ak>> It's easy - most Americans are afraid each other. So, no chance to > ak>> live without guns. ;=) > TR> Not true. > TR> Most Americans are watchful of their `government'. > TR> And the main reason for the Second Amendment guaranteeing all > TR> American citizens the right to keep and bear arms was to keep an > TR> armed citizenry able to resist and overthrow a tyrannical > TR> government. > Small arms is useless for that purpose. What makes you think all we've got is `small arms'? > TR> A right to self-defense is an inherent right secured to all people > TR> everywhere. It goes without saying that you have the right to > TR> defend yourself against anyone who would do you harm or rob you of > TR> your property. > It is actual only in a country full of bandits. ;-) Watch carefully and > shoot first! It's not a big distance from the wild West. It doesn't look > as a civilized country, either. We (at least *I*) don't care what it looks like to outsiders. We get that kind of talk from a lot of foreigners; `we aren't `civilized' '! Yeah well...we like our guns, and we don't give a hoot in hell what foreigners thi think about that. > TR> Not all citizens are allowed to exercise that right, however. > Who are not allowed? Is there a certain database of those who are not > allowed? Yes. Convicted felons, some misdemeanor convictions, and those who have been in mental institutions are usually caught in a background check for a firearm purchase. > TR> The leftist democrats, who think they know what's best for everyone > TR> else, have greatly restricted that right in most areas where they > TR> hold absolute sway, like Chicago, New York, Washington, DC, > TR> practically the entire state of California, etc etc. > What kind of restriction? Who can be denied weapon buying? Not just that In California you used to be able to carry a gun in your vehicle. Or openly in most public places. Then it started being illegal to have a `loaded' gun in your vehicle. Then it started being illegal to openly carry a `loaded gun'... Now its illegal to carry a gun in a vehicle that isn't `unloaded...locked in a trunk or inaccessible area of the vehicle to the driver...' So...the only persons allowed to carry loaded firearms in California are cops or criminals. Cops carry all sorts of guns, and criminals don't obey gun laws. So the common law-abiding citizen is on their own. > TR> All the mass shootings that have occurred that get the democrats > TR> hot about gun confiscation have pretty much occurred in `gun free > TR> zones'. > Do you think that teachers in school should keep his holster opened? ;-) A large segment of Americans are ex-military of one sort or another. I am a Vietnam veteran, have been in combat, and I know when and when not to open fire. I'm 74 years old and I can do a 5 inch group with my .44 special at 50 feet. With the 9mm automatic its about a 3.5 inch group at the same distance. People don't need cops or some other organization to `teach' them firearm safety. I've been around weapons since my father first let me try his 12 gauge when I about 11. I went through the Army, a war, and many years living in states where handguns were commonly carried by everyone. I've never shot anyone I didn't intend to shoot, never had a firearm `accident', and never `went off the deep end' with a gun. Here in the states I've used a handgun to prevent a few incidents, take a few people into custody, and been deputized twice to aid deputy sheriff's who were working alone in rural areas who needed backup. The vast majority of people this president is referring to when he accuses us of `clinging to God and our guns' are just as responsible and experienced with firearms as I try to be. --- SBBSecho 2.27-Win32 * Origin: Telnet://valhalla.synchro.net - Richmond, Virginia (1:275/93) .