Subj : GUANTANMO BAY
To   : TIM RICHARDSON
From : BOB KLAHN
Date : Fri Jan 07 2011 23:31:50


 TR> Shariah Adoption Laws: Incompatible with American Law and
 TR> Society

 TR> Posted by Clare M. Lopez Jan 3rd 2011 at 6:05 am in Middle
 TR> East, human rights, sharia

 TR> | Comments (30)Yesterday's Washington Post's feature story,
 TR> "Muslim orphans caught between Islam and the West;" about
 TR> Muslim orphans who cannot find adoptive homes because of

 ...

 TR> The reason is shariah (Islamic law), which states in
 TR> unequivocal terms, "Adoption is unlawful in Islam when it
 TR> means giving a child one's own name; a share of one's
 TR> estate division, and so on." [Umdat al-Salik (Reliance of
 TR> the Traveller), Book K, "Trade,"� section k28.4 (pg. 450).]
 ...

 Islamonline.net has a fatwa online that explains the real cause
 and the truth of Islamic adoption. You cannot deny the child's
 parents. You can do all that is done in western adoption, except
 that you must allow the child his ancestry and parentage. A
 child can inherit from the family that raises him, that is
 allowed. He will also inherit from his biological family if
 provided for under law. That is automatic.

 IOW, you could adopt a Muslim child, only you have to do it by
 Islamic rules, which means he keeps his family history, and he
 inherits from his biological family. You can then also leave him
 an inheritance in your will. It would be the same as a permenant
 guardianship in the West.

 The estate division in the Reliance of the Traveler reference
 applies to the automatic inheritance which then cuts him off
 from his ancestry.

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 TR> See......if this were a Catholic law being talked about
 TR> here, or a Mormon or Evangelical law, You'd be hopping from
 TR> one foot to the other while typing curses at everyone in
 TR> Fido you despise, blaming us for it.

 The laws against Sharia in the US will rebound back to Catholic
 and Protestant and Jewish laws. The constitution is clear, you
 can't make laws banning the free exercise of religion. And you
 can't favor one religion over another. So, to outlaw Sharia in
 the US you will have to ban consideration of any religious law.

 Jewish courts, that already exist in this country, will be
 banned.

 Hospitals run by pro-life faiths will have to perform abortions.

 Adoption agencies run by faiths that won't place children with
 gays will be forced to.

 Or shut down.

 TR> I expect you will remain completely uncaring about this.
 TR> I saw a statement from some Islamic Imam in Egypt (I think)
 TR> which said:

 TR> "Don't blame Islam....blame terrorism."

 TR> Who the fuck is he kidding? Islam *IS* terrorism!

 Wahabism is terrorism. When you can say that you have something
 to say.

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 TR> offense deemed antithetical to Islam, orphaned children
 TR> forbidden to be adopted into a home setting, and all
 TR> government laws must strictly adhere to Islamic law.

 Except that it's considered a blessing under Islam to take an
 orphan into your home. The Quran specifically says it. The
 Islamic community is responsible for seeing to it an orphan has
 a home. The only rule the right wingers ignored is, the child's
 ancestry, as known, must be kept. If his ancestry is not known
 then he is considered of the brethern of the faith. IOW, a
 Muslim whose ancestry is unknown. All the rest is the same.

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