Subj : Re: highly refined 338 To : MICHAEL LOO From : Nancy Backus Date : Mon Apr 01 2013 12:55:00 -=> Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 03-30-13 15:12 <=- NB>> Most of the evidence points to highly refined foods being problems ML> If you get your fiber and vities some way, refined food is ML> probably mostly okay. They say that corn products are worse ML> than other things, though. The biggest trick is getting everything that's been taken out some other way, especially if one doesn't even necessarily know about some of the nutrients one is missing... NB>> nutritionally. Take things out of their original form where the good NB>> and the bad balance out, and end up with the worst parts not being NB>> balanced at all, and you will indeed most likely have problems... ML> I'm not into obsessive balance, but if your body needs ML> something and you don't get it from anywhere, I agree that ML> you have to fix that. I'm not obsessive about it, but we do try to eat things that are less highly processed and are in more of a natural state... to cut down on the balancing acts afterwards, as much as anything else... ;) ML>> But the fiber should count for something, when the kernels ML>> are served (rather than flour, meal, etc.). NB>> I'd think so, too. :) Whole grain corn meal keeps the fiber, too. ML> I seldom if ever see whole grain corn meal and am sure that ML> I would not like it if I did. It makes a pretty good cornbread... :) NB>> Certainly... it helps that we are only needing to feed the two of us, NB>> and that we're less fussy about 3 squares a day nowadays... As long as NB>> I keep the weekly grocery bill under something reasonable, we can get NB>> just about anything we want, so splurges aren't out of the question... ML> But you choose your splurges. True. ML> Here at Annie's, we're on ML> a rota of prime rib, sirloin strip, ribeye, shad roe ... ML> when she had people over for dinner, she served them ML> spag bol for dinner, though; I think that as the guests ML> are notoriously frugal, she feels that she's going to be ML> frugal to them as well, which I think is not good, especially ML> as she serves their rich cousins fancy food, even though they ML> don't have her or me over at all. I felt a little guilty ML> about this so did a teriyaki ribeye for appies beforehand. Maybe if she did more splurging for them, they'd reciprocate...? Besides, that sort of thing shouldn't really be tit for tat, though I know of too many that operate that way... NB>> Maybe the guy needs some of the facelift stuff to make him more NB>> plausible...? It's all just hype, anyway... :) ML> I imagine it is. One of the suppressed bits of evidence is ML> that those who are somewhat overweight have just as good a ML> life expectancy as those of ideal BMI and tend to live longer ML> than the skinny people. Letting that bit out of the bag would destroy the entire diet industry... ;) NB>> ... Eat healthy, exercise, get plenty of sleep -- die healthy! ML> Eat vegetarian, you won't live any longer, it'll just seem ML> that way. [smile] ML> Poor man's asparagus, pommes charlotte with caviar ML> M's note: I find this an interesting recipe even in its ML> contradictoriness. Poor man, indeed! I would be a really ML> poor man and leave off the caviar, substituting, if anything, ML> regular sieved egg. I am not sure about the identity of the ML> Charlotte potato. Doesn't sound all that poorman to me, either... :) Asparagus itself is pretty pricey, although it finally is getting more seasonable... down from 5.99/lb at the peak to a much more reasonable 1.99... Reminds me of the famous Marie Antoinette mentality... ;) ttyl neb .... I don't know how I got over the hill without getting to the top!!! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 --- SBBSecho 2.20-Win32 * Origin: The Holodeck telnet://holo.homeip.net (1:261/1381) .