Subj : Pakistan To : RICHARD WEBB From : BOB KLAHN Date : Mon Jan 03 2011 05:53:20 ... RW>> Then I stated that with the TAliban and Al Qaeda getting RW>> tacit support from the Pakistani government I saw no reason RW>> that we should put one dime's worth of aid in their hands, RW>> and would still say the same. BK>> Yet, the plan should be to undermine the Taliban and the BK>> Pakistani govt. An awful lot of Pakistanis don't like the BK>> Taliban, or Al Qaeda, or their govt. We need to make use of those BK>> facts. RW> INdeed, but as long as we speak with forked tongue on the RW> issue I'm not for putting one dime's worth of food aid or RW> any other type of aid in their hands. tHose aid workers RW> should be backed up with well armed well trained troops, RW> and they should let them know in ISlamabad that an attack RW> on aid workers has immediate consequences for senior RW> government officials. OH, now that I can see the point of. Though... if the reason for the invasion of Iraq was to bring freedom to the Iraqis, the current rational of the right, then why not bring freedom to the people of Pakistan? RW>> I applaud the U.N. relief agencies' decision. RW>> I truly believe that the U.N. relief workers should be RW>> evacuated post haste, and all the food stocks and other RW>> materials which cannot be taken out with them should be RW>> destroyed. BK>> Uhh... innocent people will die. Remember, Al Qaeda kills more BK>> Muslims than non-Muslims. And every time they attack they make more BK>> enemies. I do believe a lot of Pakistanis died in that attack, BK>> didn't they? RW> INdeed, but the messages are too mixed. that government is RW> no friend of ours, and no real friend of the international RW> community. sO, innocent people will die. I'm truly sorry RW> about that, but we can't help them unless we're willing to RW> kick some posterior now and worry about taking names later, RW> and that includes the Pakistani government. Oh, you already said that. BK>> Remember, when the USSR pulled out of Afghanistan they didn't BK>> settle back and rest, they expanded. RW> And they will continue to do just that until we get the RW> gumption to do it right. But then I don't expect we will. RW> I'm still waiting to see that freedom for KUwait we fought RW> for ya know. LEt's either do it right, or bring the young RW> men and women home. Yeah... we are patient, waitind for 20 years for that freedom for Kuwait. OTOH, some truth might make the waiting easier. Wikileaks, where are you when we need you? RW> IF nothing else there's always that big water control RW> project in INdia. WE can defend it with troops and tell RW> the folks in ISlamabad that we'll shut off the tap unless RW> they stfu and do as they're told. sO more innocent people RW> will die. CAn't make an omelet and all those other nice Maybe just do some precision surgery of the Pakistan intelligence service. RW> cliches. IT's time to get serious about the radical RW> fundamentalism problem, and that's a good place to start, IF we are going to get serious about terrorism, the best place to start is Saudi Arabia. But you already know that. RW> because that's the biggest danger right now. so long as RW> the government in ISlambad permits the Qaedas to operate RW> freely they should be considered a rogue state, and treated RW> accordingly. More like a failed state. Or a failed state in the process of failing. OTOH, we need to rein in India's nuke activities also. Damn so much we need to do. BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn .... The government is big...the government does a lot of good things. B. Dole --- Via Silver Xpress V4.5/P [Reg] * Origin: Doc's Place BBS Fido Since 1991 docsplace.tzo.com (1:123/140) .