Subj : Pakistan To : BOB KLAHN From : Richard Webb Date : Sun Jan 02 2011 14:04:22 HI Bob, On Sat 2039-Jan-01 23:28, BOB KLAHN (1:123/140) wrote to RICHARD WEBB: RW> Readers of other FIdonet echoes of this type will recall a RW> heated debate over disaster aid and preparedness in another RW> echo I was involved in. A person essentially on the other RW> side of many of the issues asked why no concern over the RW> flooding and natural disasters in Pakistan. RW> Then I stated that with the TAliban and Al Qaeda getting RW> tacit support from the Pakistani government I saw no reason RW> that we should put one dime's worth of aid in their hands, RW> and would still say the same. BK> Yet, the plan should be to undermine the Taliban and the BK> Pakistani govt. An awful lot of Pakistanis don't like the BK> Taliban, or Al Qaeda, or their govt. We need to make use of those BK> facts. INdeed, but as long as we speak with forked tongue on the issue I'm not for putting one dime's worth of food aid or any other type of aid in their hands. tHose aid workers should be backed up with well armed well trained troops, and they should let them know in ISlamabad that an attack on aid workers has immediate consequences for senior government officials. RW> I applaud the U.N. relief agencies' decision. RW> I truly believe that the U.N. relief workers should be RW> evacuated post haste, and all the food stocks and other RW> materials which cannot be taken out with them should be RW> destroyed. BK> Uhh... innocent people will die. Remember, Al Qaeda kills more BK> Muslims than non-Muslims. And every time they attack they make more BK> enemies. I do believe a lot of Pakistanis died in that attack, BK> didn't they? INdeed, but the messages are too mixed. that government is no friend of ours, and no real friend of the international community. sO, innocent people will die. I'm truly sorry about that, but we can't help them unless we're willing to kick some posterior now and worry about taking names later, and that includes the Pakistani government. BK> Remember, when the USSR pulled out of Afghanistan they didn't BK> settle back and rest, they expanded. And they will continue to do just that until we get the gumption to do it right. But then I don't expect we will. I'm still waiting to see that freedom for KUwait we fought for ya know. LEt's either do it right, or bring the young men and women home. IF nothing else there's always that big water control project in INdia. WE can defend it with troops and tell the folks in ISlamabad that we'll shut off the tap unless they stfu and do as they're told. sO more innocent people will die. CAn't make an omelet and all those other nice cliches. IT's time to get serious about the radical fundamentalism problem, and that's a good place to start, because that's the biggest danger right now. so long as the government in ISlambad permits the Qaedas to operate freely they should be considered a rogue state, and treated accordingly. BK> ... If Jesus was Jewish, why did they give him a Mexican name? --- Regards, Richard --- timEd 1.10.y2k+ * Origin: (1:116/901) .