Subj : Current events To : BOB KLAHN From : Richard Webb Date : Sun Feb 20 2011 22:16:35 Hi Bob, On Sat 2039-Feb-19 18:09, BOB KLAHN (1:123/140) wrote to RICHARD WEBB: BK> Of course we won't. That would take facing down the republicans. BK> The administration would defend their failure to do that as BK> "picking our battles." This is the battle they should chose to BK> fight. Right, but I don't see us moving to even support those movements. FIrst, even if we would find intervention desirable we're already spread too thin militarily, so we'll have to just watch and see what happens. RW>> MIght be, but still imho appeared to be another despotic RW>> state, iow a theocracy. BK>> So is Israel, but that doesn't stop us from supporting them. Iran BK>> was on the way to democracy. Who knows how much of the detour is BK>> due to Bush trashing them. RW> WHO can tell, but as for ISrael, I haven't been an ISrael RW> supporter for a long time. BK> I hold that the only right to exist Israel has is the same as any BK> other nation, the fact that they do exist. That does not imply a BK> requirement on our part that we support every extreme thing they BK> do. That's essentially my position. tHey exist, that's a fact of life, but that doesn't mean we should prop them up. BK>> Yeah, but climate change is a fraud don't you know. Ask the BK>> Australians swimming in their streets, or the Chinese enjoying BK>> their extended dry spell, or the African nations now getting ready BK>> to fight over the Nile water. RW> I'm supposed to buy into the assertion this is a fraud made RW> by the same scamsters who ripped off the American taxpayer RW> to the tune of millions for this tarp horse hockey. I'm gonna rush right out and do that.> BK> You do realize that was the ironic form of speech, don't you? Knew that . Still these anti science barbarians get about as much respect from me as do the Qaedas. Imho they're dangerous to the survival of the human race. RW>> Agreed, to a point. Local self determination is always RW>> preferrable, but i have the same objections to a RW>> "christian" theocracy, or any other theocracy for that RW>> matter. BK>> I agree. As I said, mix government and religion and it's bad for BK>> both. RW> OF course it is, but we still have plenty of that mixture, RW> and the religionists want more. BK> Obama should abolish the Office of Faith Based Initiatives. BK> Straight out abolish it as unconstitutional. I've thought that should be declared unconstitutional from the get-go. BK>> Need to also declare any corporate involvement in suppressing BK>> human rights won't be tolerated, and we don't care what country BK>> that corporation is from. RW> But then we'd be severely punishing our own, and punishing RW> the biggest ISrael boosters from their NEw York City board RW> rooms. BK> I feel so sad for them. (Stopping to wipe a tear from the corner BK> of my eye.) ME too . BK>> Just today reading the reason Al Qaeda has been totally silent on BK>> Egypt, it's a denial of everything Al Qaeda stands for. Seems Al BK>> Qaeda hates the Muslim Brotherhood. The MB renounced BK>> violence, and this revolution was pulled off peacefully. Al Qaeda BK>> stands for violent revolution, and this shows them up badly. RW> COol! If stable truly representative governments do happen to spring up the Qaedas have lost their best recruiting tool. They know this. tHIs is the biggest reason we should aid and abet those movements. Regards, Richard --- timEd 1.10.y2k+ * Origin: (1:116/901) .