Subj : Re: Chinese Scientists Cr
To   : MIKE POWELL
From : Rob Mccart
Date : Thu Feb 20 2025 01:43:00

RM>> But they say that Trump's tariffs will act more like a tax on regular
  >> Americans while hiding that it is a tax, while he's also trying to
  >> bankrupt Canada to get us to join the USA.

MP>I have never actually heard anyone explain why he wants Canada to join the
  >US.  I actually thought it was a jab at Trudeau and not something he was
  >serious about.  Of course, I also thought the "Gulf of America" discussion
  >was a jab at Mexico but then it happened.

I should be careful about saying too much directly about Trump. I would
guarantee that we get different news up here than you get down there and
I'm not sure whether they just highlight what gets people's attention
in that country or if some things are blocked down there that we get
to see up here. Probably in both countries we should take the main
news with a bit if a grain of salt, although the NON mail news people
can be a serious problem as well.

Originally we did think that the Canada as the 51st state was a bit
of a joke, but he seems to be getting more and more serious about it
all the time. Honestly though, with him it's hard to tell what is a
ploy and what he's serious about. The bottom line is that a trade
war between our countries would just cost the regular people more.
The gov't will collect the tariffs as income and the amount of them
will just get passed down to the regular consumers in higher prices
so it acts more like a tax on almost everything you buy.

But it sounds like if he could arrange it at all Trump would like
the USA to take over Canada, Greenland, Panama and the Gaza strip.

MP>In Canada, what is the general feeling as to why Trump wants Canada
  >to join with the USA?

We have a lot of rare minerals and natural resources that we sell to
you and of the oil you import, 60% of it comes from Canada. Trump was
talking about a $200 Billion trade deficit with Canada - us selling
you that much more than you sell us - but they looked at that up here
and found if you remove Oil from that figure, which we actually sell
to you at 20% less than the going market rates, then you actually
end up with a small trade surplus. Someone said a while back that if
the Tariff war comes through and affects oil that Americans can
expect to pay about an extra $10 to fill their tanks.

Canada and the USA have one of the best relationships in the world
with the longest undefended border in the world. We generally like
each other and our trade back and forth is a huge part of both of
our economies so I hope that Trump doesn't do anything to mess that
up more than he already has (tourism and cross border shopping is
way down and we are booing each others national anthems at sporting
events). Fortunately this is his last term and I fear he is trying
to do something to really stand out in the history books more than
it actually being something to 'make America Great again'...
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