Subj : Re: Gay & Lesbian Conspiracy To : Lee Lofaso From : Bill McGarrity Date : Tue Aug 18 2015 18:11:00 -=> Lee Lofaso wrote to Bill McGarrity <=- Hello Lee... TR>> McGarrity is a good one for that. So's Lewis. TR>> They'll spend several packet cycles denouncing anyone who dares TR>> to oppose marriage between two same sex sodomites, putting it under TR>> the `equal rights' thing and all that. TR>> But when they want to inundate someone with the worst, most disgusting TR>> insults they can think of....they go right into homo-slams mode! TR>> So...for all their most strenuous defense of sodomites, in the end TR>> they reveal their knowledge that its a sick disgusting life-style. TR>> Hypocrisy at it's finest. LL>> An agenda. Everybody has an agenda. I have an agenda. They LL>> have an agenda. Everybody else has an agenda, too. The difference LL>> between me and others is that my agenda is not a hidden agenda. LL>> The question is, what is it those with hidden agendas are hiding, LL>> or trying to hide? BM> I have no agenda. LL> No agenda? LL> "I aimlessly travel, meaning I have no agenda other than LL> to get small in the world, be quiet and observe people." LL> - Walton Goggins, actor LL> Are you really such a person as the actor portrayed? LL> Is it even possible for any such fictional person to be LL> an actual person? I think not. I have no agenda on what Richardson speaks of. He's more prone to having an agenda, or shall I say, vendetta against those he feels do not live up to his standards, as tunnel-visioned as they are. LL> Man is, by his very nature, a political and a social LL> creature. He is a participant, not a mere spectator, LL> in this world. How he participates is up to him. LL> But participate he must, if he is to be alive at all. Oh I agree, thus my statement as to IF he was, I'd not have an objection. BM> What Richarson failed to comprehend is I had no issue with him being gay LL> if BM> he was. I stated it was his choice and his alone. LL> Nature or nurture? Does man (or woman) have an actual LL> choice as to their own sexual orientation? Is it LL> something forced upon them by the accident of their LL> birth? Some, like Lady Gaga, would say yes, such LL> people are "born that way". Others believe it is a LL> free choice, including one that can be changed if LL> one so desires. Did members of the Lesbian and gay community feel as if they had a choice during the HIV times? I'm sure a disease would settle that arguement IF they consiously changed their sexual preference if confronted with death. I can't say for sure, but yes, there were probably some who did. According to today's statistics, not many. BM> His agenda is to take other's words, twist them to meet his BM> narrow-mindedness so he feels superior. LL> What did Jesus say in regards to those who are gay LL> and lesbian? I remember a particular story about a LL> woman who was about to be stoned by an angry mob. LL> Supposedly for having committed adultery. After LL> saving the woman from her fate, Jesus asked her LL> who she was with. Ahd do you know what she told LL> him? "With no man." Jesus did not condemn her. LL> He did tell her not to do it again. But what LL> that "it" happened to be is not recorded in the LL> gospel (flipping the bird at an angry mob only LL> makes an angry mob more angry ...). Jesus said nothing about lesbian and gays. Yes, he did speak of adultry but what has that have to do with it? Are you insinuating because she said /no man/ she was talking about another woman? Quite a leap of faith on your part. Now, if she said with no man OR woman, you'd have traction. The part I find rather amusing is homosexuality was around and flourishing with the Greeks and Romans, ancient China, within the ancient tribes of Latin America... and so on. Species of animals consider it normal behavior, well before man. Studies up the wazzoo have been performed to find this out. Now, Richardson would say these studies were inconclusive because they were tax-payer funded and were a total waste of money, as if he's the sole supporter of the federal, state and local budgets. Whether people want to admit it or not, at one time in each family there was someone that was gay. Some families may have swept it under the rug, (Richardson's come to mind) and others embraced those showing love and understanding. Now, being your brought it up, what was Jesus' prime message? BM> I've coined it the "Don Quixote Syndrome". He stated above I am good for BM> that. Good for what? LL> That depends on your agenda. :) Told you, have none other than acceptance. BM> In that I believe each person should BM> live their life as they see fit as long as it's not hurting another? LL> That would be an agenda. Imposing your own view(s) Now that's the most insane thing you've ever said. I am imposing my views on myself. Taking Jesus' prime message of Love rather than hurting someone. Are you now saying Jesus' message to "Not do it again" wasn't an agenda on his part? LL> on that of another. Does the USA (or any other country) LL> have the right to act as the world's policeman? Even LL> with the best of intentions? Why, or why not? No need for politics in this discussion.... BM> Last I saw that was Constitutionally proected. LL> Better re-read that document again. For example, LL> slavery still continues to exist, as any prisoner LL> being incarcerated can attest. Because something still exists doesn't mean the Constitution doesn't guarantee those rights. Those who are enslaving others should be the ones incarcerated. When was the last time you saw a 4 year old sitting in a jail cell? The idea of incarceration, which the US has taken to an alltime high, is to limit the freedoms of those who fail to allow others their rights. Remember this... We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish JUSTICE, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. jus+tice 'j?st?s/ noun 1. just behavior or treatment. "a concern for justice, peace, and genuine RESPECT for people" synonyms:.fairness, justness, fair play, fair-mindedness, equity, evenhandedness, impartiality, objectivity, neutrality, disinterestedness, honesty, righteousness, morals, morality. BM> If Richardson feels as if he is being so injured over the lifestyle of BM> another, he can always do what he preaches, ext. LL> The Constitution does protect the separation of LL> church and state. In regards to same sex marriage, LL> the state has no authority to impose its own rules LL> on that of a religious institution. Except for LL> Mormons. The only religion the state said that LL> men had to limit themselves to one wife. Who said they have? The SCOTUS said /civil/ same-sex marriages. This ruling does not mandate churches marry anyone they choose not to marry, whether itAs a gay couple, a couple unequally yoked, or a couple with a history of abuse. -- Bill Telnet: tequilamockingbirdonline.net Web: bbs.tequilamockingbirdonline.net FTP: ftp.tequilamockingbirdonline.net:2121 IRC: irc.tequilamockingbirdonline.net Ports: 6661-6670 SSL: +6697 Radio: radio.tequilamockingbirdonline.net:8010/live .... Look Twice... Save a Life!!! Motorcycles are Everywhere!!! === MultiMail/Win32 v0.50 --- SBBSecho 2.27-Win32 * Origin: TequilaMockingbird Online - Toms River, NJ (1:266/404) .