Subj : Telegram was unblocked in Russia = Durov cooperation To : Nil Alexandrov From : August Abolins Date : Sun Sep 13 2020 00:43:00 Hello Nil! ** On Sunday 13.09.20 - 05:14, Nil Alexandrov wrote to August Abolins: AA>> Oh.. and I forgot to ask, is Telegram the only one among AA>> the other messenger apps that is open-source? NA> It's actually a bit tricky. Telegram demonstrates NA> transparency and provides the source code, though nobody NA> knows for sure whether the app in the store is built from NA> the sources without any patches. That is absolutely right. No one is fooled by the claim that it is open-source and yet only have available the compiled apps to install. It is not much different with the sources for linux code. Not everyone even would know what to look for to identify nefarious bits of code. Users just fetch the applications and the updates, compile, and go. NA> A bit of a history. Russian government asked Telegram to NA> share the cryptographic keys. Telegram rejected to NA> cooperate.. Yes, I read about that just prior to your post. But I didn't know that Russia removed the ban *this year*. I suppose Stas wouldn't have dared to operate Telegram while it being banned. Good to know that he has freedom to use it now. NA> Pavel Durov.. Recently he was talking shit about Apple NA> and Google 30% app store commission and how cruel they NA> are. Hmmmm. Yeah, Why would he *need* to do that? :/ NA> Anyway, suddenly Russian government has removed the NA> ban and Telegram was unblocked in Russia. Yes.. very suspect. If the Durov's have emmigrated, why would they need to *now* cower to the Russian gov't? Is it because of threats and pressure to their families who they left behind or something? NA> ... but it was government direct order to unblock. It NA> definitely shows Durov cooperation. Yes. Suspicious. So, do you think that the secret-chats feature is not so secret? -- ../|ug --- OpenXP 5.0.46 * Origin: (2:221/1.58) .