Subj : Home Espresso Machines To : Kurt Weiske From : August Abolins Date : Sun Mar 19 2023 12:27:00 Hello Kurt! ** On Monday 13.03.23 - 08:38, you wrote: KW> It's got a decent sized-boiler - you can pull two expresso KW> shots then immediately go about steaming milk or pulling KW> boiling water for an americano. KW> Two things that make it larger than some others are the KW> system for disposing of coffee pucks and the front-mounted KW> water reservoir. That makes it easy to maintain the unit KW> if it's under a counter, like mine is. The last machine that I had in use was a Bosch/Tassimo unit. The coffee/tea pucks are very compact and thin. It was in use for about 12 years. The quick/automated way of having a coffee started and ready (walk off and do something else) was addictive in of itself. I was even contemplating offering "fresh" coffee at my shop with a couple of units like that. I did NOT appreciate having to take the system offline for the descaler process every 6 months or so. However, I persisted until I simply got fed up with paying the premium for the pre- packaged pucks. Instead, I repurposed the machine to act as my inline hotwater heater and just made my coffees with a cone+filter that sits on top of the cup - and I used the much less expensive loose-ground coffee - I did that for about 5 years. Then, one day (after 10 years total) the machine reported a fault light indicating that the water reservoir was empty, although it was NOT. As a result, a simple descaler process wasn't going to cooperate! I was already drinking decaf by that time, so I wasn't really missing having a coffee. But the machine is toast as far am I am concerned and will simply go to landfill. The machine only made at the most 4 to 6 beverages per day. With those numbers it seems that 10 years of service, including the recommended descaling, for a mchine like that seems underperforming. Anyway.. boiling water the simple way in a kettle, and letting gravity and a paper cone do its magic is quite good and fast enough. I would imagine that your espresso machine would need far more maintenance and cleaning than a simple water-only Bosch/Tassimo system. I know you said that the machine "has already paid for itself" in a few months (keeping in mind that the cost of bistro coffees are overpriced to begin with), but I hope the machine doesn't create maintenance headaches and added cost down the road. -- ../|ug --- OpenXP 5.0.57 * Origin: Mobile? COFFEE_KLATSCH = https://tinyurl.com/y56r9f2o (2:221/1.58) .