Subj : Echomail could use a landing page To : August Abolins From : Charles Pierson Date : Wed Nov 18 2020 21:34:44 Hello, August Abolins. On 11/18/20 9:15 PM you wrote: AA> Hello Charles! ** On Wednesday 18.11.20 - 19:05, Charles Pierson AA> wrote to August Abolins: CP>> Telling them about echomail is somewhat useless without them CP>> understanding BBSes are still here and operational, and do not CP>> require computers older than they are to access. AA> One step at a time. The first step.. join an echo. Then they AA> "learn" the unique terms and further possibilities. First Step: Learn about BBS and Echos. Then join. A random websearch isn't getting you there. CP>> A "landing page" would do no more than any current BBS's Webpage CP>> now. It would still require a specific search for BBS related CP>> terms, so short of reading an article about BBSes somewhere, or CP>> seeing BBS and BBS networks mentioned in their favorite social CP>> media platform, they wouldn't know what to look for. AA> The page would be a tool. Stas' google search using FUTURE4FIDO AA> pulled up my "Help" page, first. That probably means that AA> Google has recognized it gets a lot of visits and is therefore AA> "relevant". I would not dismiss the usefulness of a suitable AA> info-page as quickly as you do. ;) I didn't dismiss it. I said you would have to know what to search for to find it. If I knew nothing about BBSes, or Fidonet, why on Earth would I type FUTURE4FIDO in a searchbar? AA>>> Most potential users are reading blogs and forums that cater AA>>> to their interest. Ephemeral conversation is often limited to AA>>> Facebook - because that is all they know. CP>> And a landing page found by Google searches won't change that. AA> I wouldn't be so sure. People seem to think that the internet AA> *is* google. That's what they use - a lot. But how are they going to have any idea of what to search FOR? AA>>> If there was a landing page that describes what echomail is AA>>> and how to use it (either via the Telegram app, or fTelnet or AA>>> whatever interface) then they can be informed about the AA>>> strange world of BBSing via their devices too. CP>> That's not going to happen via Googling it. AA> It worked well with a FUTURE4FIDO search. It can work for other AA> things. You are purposely missing what I am saying. Without learning about bbs and echos elsewhere, they are NOT going to search for it. CP>> They will have to see it discussed via blogs, Tweets, Facebook CP>> posts, Instagram, whatever. AA> Sure, that too. Start doing that. ;) I don't do social media like that. CP>> There has to be something attracting interest first. AA> Pretty icons help. AA>>> I think the messaging component should be promoted first, AA>>> *then* the BBS. Not the other way around as it is now. CP>> It goes hand in hand. BBS'S and amateur computer networks have CP>> been around longer than Zuckerberg has been alive. You're not CP>> buried in advertisements because you did a websearch about CP>> headphones once to get someone a gift. AA> Those things have been around longer. Fine. But new people have AA> not. ;) I don't quite get your meaning on the latter sentence. They're selling points. CP>> But you can't simply say "Hey kids, you want echomail conferences CP>> about almost any topic you can think of?" Without also explaining CP>> about BBSes and how to use them. AA> But I think that would work. Hey kids.. google "fido echomail" AA> and maybe even the keywords "start here" and learn that it can AA> be a fine alternative to the usual forums and chat sites out AA> there. THEN, they learn that they are attached to the strange AA> things called BBSes. And these BBSes can be contacted directly AA> too. That's a good way to get a few people to maybe login once. You need something that actually gets their interest. Google this isn't it. 1000000 clickbait ads do that much. -- Best regards! Posted using Hotdoged on Android --- Hotdoged/2.13.5/Android * Origin: Houston, TX (1:153/757.26) .