Subj : Re: Jack Tramiel To : All From : Joacim Melin Date : Sat Feb 01 2020 18:08:27 SG> Re: Jack Tramiel SG> By: Dave Drum to Tristan Miller on Fri Jan 31 2020 12:24 pm >> Jack, who dumped CBM in favour of Atari (nee Tramiel Technology Ltd.) >> was just as much about money as Irving (Gould) and Medhi (Ali) who came >> after him at Commodore and busted it out for fun and (especially) profit. SG> I don't think he was really dumped. Irving sacked him. Not sure how SG> that's SG> possible, and what the actual reasons were. Some say because he SG> wanted to bring SG> his sons in. Irving said he was worried about JAck's health, and SG> didn't think SG> he was the man to take the company to beyond a billion. SG> Maybe Jack planned to build Atari up to the point where he could buy SG> our SG> Commodore and get his creation back. Something akin to the Steve Jobs SG> story, SG> where he was ousted but found a back route back in. Several truthful sources have come out before and after Jack Tramiels death and confirmed that while he wasn't formally fired (he resigned) his disagreement with Irving was so profound he couldn't remain at Commodore. Irving, the blood-sucking leach that he was, was very willing to keep spending Commodores money on his own luxury lifestyle. Quoted from Wikipedia: "During a question and answer session at CommVEx v11 (July 18, 2015), Jack's son, Leonard Tramiel, finally revealed to the crowd his version of what really transpired between Jack and Irving Gould during the 1984 C.E.S. show resulting in Tramiel leaving Commodore:[22] On January 13, 1984 during a meeting with Irving, Jack told Irving that treating the assets of the company as his own and using them for personal use was wrong. He said to Irving, "you can't do that while I'm still president" to which Irving responded by saying "Goodbye". Three days after the show, Jack announced to the public that he was resigning from the company." Irving was the one who drove Commodore into the ground. They would've failed anyway with the PC standard taking over but they sure as heck would have lasted longer than 1994. --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3) .