Subj : Binkd and TLS To : Michiel van der Vlist From : Rob Swindell Date : Tue Dec 17 2019 15:11:07 Re: Binkd and TLS By: Michiel van der Vlist to Richard Menedetter on Tue Dec 17 2019 04:10 pm > The Synchronet fans do not seem to like starttls, they want a diffrent port. The people-in-the-know don't like starttls: https://serverfault.com/questions/523804/is-starttls-less-safe-than-tls-ssl > So we alreay have two competing standards... Are you refering to Binkd's CRYPT option as one of those standards? Not to pick a nit, but it's not actually a standard. It's not even a proposed standard: http://ftsc.org/docs/fsp-1024.000 I could also argue that BinkP over TLS (binkps) is an implicitly defined standard since the TCP application protocol (binkp) is already a defined standard: http://ftsc.org/docs/fts-1026.001 If you take an existing clear-text TCP application protocol (e.g. telnet) and simply define a new TCP port to be used for the implicit TLS transport of a secure implementation of that same protocol (e.g. telnets) - you don't actually need a new protocol definition (e.g. RFC) for the secure protocol to be a "standard". The same is true of binkps. digital man Synchronet "Real Fact" #77: Rob Swindell still has dozens of BBS-related magazines in his possession. Norco, CA WX: 61.5øF, 16.0% humidity, 6 mph WNW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs --- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705) .