Subj : MSGID To : Wilfred van Velzen From : August Abolins Date : Sun Apr 11 2021 13:53:00 Hello Wilfred! AA>> Not if the hash includes the entire msg and the date posted. WvV> Ok. But the serial based ones are still better. ;) I can see that to be the case as well. A serial-style also has a built-in chronological feature. WvV> H:\myutils>> rando2 AA>> lfz$bkmcmmg36ye@jll1xpieaats WvV> Those aren't 32 bit. Ah... so the "serialno" part *must" be 8-char? Then rando could still work like so: H:\myutils>rando yZn=ZRG- i)G)0ej= YwSj-6B+ kwg5r(aR Fp902h8A lFyNVofN R)5vlK+( Sg7y-pPE DDvCC2Sm mX20Wj3d ()AO8oN\ \DTe29VA 4xqhDjbB QXK\uqOs :D WvV> there's always a change of a collision within 3 years. Yes.. I've suspected that could be problematic. But look at the variation produced above. My math for calculating the minimum number of possibilies (if excluding characters like "(, ), \, =, -, etc.." and only allowing for the letters of the alphabet, upper and lower case, is: 52^8 That's a lot more than just a plain hex version: 16^8. Echomail traffic would have to attain avalanche proportions before collisions would be a concern. ;) AA>> I remember something about the MSGID being referred to as a two- AA>> part string with "origaddr" + "serialno", where "origaddr" is AA>> intended to be a qualified "address of the originating system". WvV> No: "... address for the originating network" WvV> ^^^^^^^ Ah.. that little word "for" makes a big difference. : Then the synchronet version adds some added uniqueness. -- ../|ug --- OpenXP 5.0.49 * Origin: Mobile? ASIAN_LINK https://preview.tinyurl.com/y6rwskq (2:221/1.58) .