Subj : only check/reply to messages every 2 months or so?
To   : Carol Shenkenberger
From : August Abolins
Date : Fri Jan 01 2021 11:47:00

Hello Carol!

** On Friday 01.01.21 - 10:01, Carol Shenkenberger wrote to August Abolins:

 >> PMFJI, but I still have fidonet messages tagged for replies that
 >> have accumulated beyond 2 months.  :(

 CS> LOL!

Often, when I revisit the older-than-2month "tagged for replies"  
messages, I can't remember Wtf I had in mind as a reply.  :/   
Sometimes it comes back to me in a few seconds, so then I may  
decide to keep them on the back-burner a little while longer.

Sometimes I later realize that someone else may have delt with  
the topic.

This is part of the reason I think sysops should never let an  
echo to completely purge of all (old) messages.  Instead, try to  
keep at least a modicum selection of say "the last 200" or so.


 CS> BTW, saw some silly dust ups about the telegram bit.  Best
 CS> to tell them it's from our standpoint much like a fancy OLR
 CS> that works well in a world of tablets and such technology..

Thank you for that. I'd like to forward your full comment to the  
FIDONET.TELEGRAM echo.  It may serve to educate new sysops/users.


 CS> Technically when Dale Shipp was feeding me traffic on the
 CS> USS McHenry then USS Essex, we dove off to an email to email
 CS> delivery with OLR on each end.  Similar in concept.

OMG.. "our" data was being transmitted to various USS ships  
without our prior knowledge!  What about privacy, what about our  
rights! What unsavoury servers are utilized on those ships?  Or..  
even what over-the-air non-FTN techonolgy was used for  
transmissions?  The horror.

I know one sysop who implemented a mechanism to forward netmail  
to his user's cell phones in the early 2000's.  Surely, a lot of  
"unkown" servers and systems would be involved in-between.  Noone  
seemed to be bothered by that.


 CS> Explain it more simply like that and the yahoos will quiet
 CS> down.

Too late. Less than just 2 weeks of implementation, a couple of  
modertors changed their minds (they approved the transmissions  
previously) about this alternate OLR after only a couple other  
people raised questions.

The experiment lost WIFI, X-FILES, NZ_FIDONET, WHAT'S_HOT! &  
RETAIL_HORROR ..all good candidates for the independent chat  
style of messaging.

Maybe you can help dispell any fears?


 CS> I'm sure all here will happily help with any formatting
 CS> issues.  I opened the gateways for testing here some 10
 CS> years ago and no one has ever minded!

A lot of formatting issues have already be delt with. It is still  
a work-in-progress. Inner-message quoting like in this reply  
would be somewhat awkard on a smartphone - but I have done it.

MSGID/REPLYID was implemented very quickly. Even netmail delivery  
to the Telegram user was streamlined.

If the goal is to make echomail accessible to the ways that  
people use devices now, the Telegram app is a fine OLR-type of  
thing. The desktop app is really not much different than having  
to use an OLR program just to read QWK packets.

It's great even just to get annoucments that echomail has  
arrived.

BTW, are you still biding your time on USS ships?
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  ../|ug

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