Subj : Re: slightly different format
To   : Wilfred van Velzen
From : August Abolins
Date : Sun Nov 15 2020 19:54:12

 WvV> Hi Maurice,
 WvV> 
 WvV> On 2020-11-15 07:35:14, you wrote to me:
 WvV> 
 WvV> WvV>> they also know their location and offset to UTC, so they can
 WvV> WvV>> present the correct localtime.
 WvV> 
 WvV> MK> When it presents the localtime exactly what information is it providing?
 WvV> 
 WvV> Asking the question is answering it: localtime.
 WvV> 
 WvV> WvV>> FTS-4008 Is right by definition. It's the fidonet standard.
 WvV> 
 WvV> MK> My country right or wrong?
 WvV> 
 WvV> What does your country have to do with it?
 WvV> 
 WvV> MK> FTS-4008 is a seriously flawed document.
 WvV> 
 WvV> No it isn't. It just documents current practice, as it was in fidonet at the time it was drafted.
 WvV> 
 WvV> MK> It takes a legitimate concept (utc offset) and bastardizes it for no
 WvV> MK> apparent reason.  It should get the heave-ho.  Something like the
 WvV> MK> RFC-3339 flag would be a much better approach for compensating for the
 WvV> MK> current flaws in fidonet standards.
 WvV> 
 WvV> It is how it is in fidonet. I would say almost impossible to change. So you will just have to live with it.
 WvV> 
 WvV> MK>>> has it made any difference there in any meaningful way?
 WvV> 
 WvV> WvV>> Only if it's not 'TZUTC: 0000'. ;)
 WvV> 
 WvV> MK> Within this msg is one that presents a legitimate utc offset (-0800)
 WvV> MK> encased in a TZUTC flag.  Does it make a difference?
 WvV> 
 WvV> Yes, now I know the real localtime when the message was written. I think that's usefull information. It makes a difference when some one writes a message in the middle of the night or during the day...
 WvV> 
 WvV> 
 WvV> Bye, Wilfred.

It ultimately depends on where you KNOW someone resides. For instance, my posts from Veleno are timestamped Italian time, but unless you know where I actually live, you can't say.. "Aug wrote that at 3am! He needs help."


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