Subj : all for one To : mark lewis From : Maurice Kinal Date : Sun Sep 01 2019 16:46:32 Hey mark! ml> i thought you were talking about an emoticon... that i character ml> is not an emoticon ;) Two of the 8 bytes are. In fact the last trailing byte in each of the 32-bit emoticons sent which is why I specifically picked those two emoticons since they both end in 0x8d from an 8-bit perspective (eg "CHRS: CP437 2"). No? ml> it seems to depend on the font used by the displaying tool The empty recangular box would work for me. However it should only print on the screen and not replace the actual glyph (<-whatever) in the msg, or a reply, containing that glyph. That is why I no longer use msged for fidonet messaging since it will corrupt utf-8 codes within quotes, whereas DOS-think editors such as QEdit and uemacs simply return them unscathed, including the infamous "loses an eye" character 0x8d. Life is good, Maurice .... Don't cry for me I have vi. --- GNU bash, version 5.0.11(1)-release (aarch64-raspi3b+-linux-gnu) * Origin: Little Mikey's CanadARM - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001.2989) .