Subj : all for one To : mark lewis From : Maurice Kinal Date : Sat Aug 31 2019 03:17:16 Hey mark! Sorry that this "reply" is missing a REPLY kludge but I screwed up and accidently deleted your msg while attempting a new fangled cp437 conversion dealie. Hopefully this msg does a better job. :::knock on wood::: ml> i'm ~12 days behind right now Not bad. From what I've see most of fidonet is at least 2 decades out of step, probably closer to 3 decades. ;-) ml> they can be converted but not to a single glyph That is why I put the hex codes instead of the corresponding unicode. So for "PERSON FROWNING" on a CP437 display you should see that f0 = , 9f = , 99 = , and 8d = , which is the infamous "loses an eye" character. Where your editor got the single upside down question mark seems odd to me, especially for both the emoticons which are different from each other albiet both containing the 0x8d trailing byte, which is one of the tests. Life is good, Maurice .... Don't cry for me I have vi. --- GNU bash, version 5.0.11(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) * Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001) .