Subj : that trick never works To : mark lewis From : Maurice Kinal Date : Sat Apr 13 2019 18:00:01 Hallo mark! ml> if that's the post i think it was, i included a graphic of a ml> rainbow over a pot of gold... Yes that would be the msg in question. However the graphic is definetly grunged even when converted to utf8 from cp437. Is there an original I can have a looksee? If it contains any ansi escape sequences that is what would cause extreme grief as those will not work in fidonet messaging. Anyhow I have been able to convert cp437 ansi files to utf8 ansi files in the past and the result is best viewed using stty. Offhand I don't recall exactly how it was achieved but do recall stty has some switches to force the view to 24x80 so that the ansi escape sequences behave themselves on terminals foreign to 'normal' DOS-think terminals. Not sure if the same will work on a KDE terminal but perhaps something closer to a 'normal' terminal such as rxvt? Sean might be able to test a cp437 ansi file in tmux without the need for stty by sizing it's terminal to 24x80, as he seems to be using cp437 natively. Het leven is goed, Maurice .... Huil niet om mij, ik heb vi. --- GNU bash, version 5.0.3(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) * Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint - Ladysmith BC, Canada (2:280/464.113) .