Subj : that trick never works To : Maurice Kinal From : mark lewis Date : Fri Apr 12 2019 18:08:22 On 2019 Apr 12 20:50:04, you wrote to me: ml>> on my box i had to specifically assign a modifier key to use so as to ml>> be able to enter ""blended"" characters... MK> By blended do you mean multibyte? no because even the ones in CP437 that are greater than 127 have to be ""blended""... by blended i mean that i have to hold the modifier button and then hit the two keys, in proper order, to create the character... MK> Anyhow I won't quote back your modifier keys as they show as C1 MK> control codes here. I never use those but perhaps they will work in MK> other editors, maybe even joe. That I don't know. i dunno... C1?? AFAIK they're just CP437 characters greater than 127... ml>> what i describe is what i had to do on a KDE GUI setup... MK> Ah! Yeah I read something about that somewhere. No KDE here, or anything MK> like it, so I cannot confirm nor deny. All I know for sure that on the MK> linux console those tricks won't work. The left plus the decimal MK> number does on both the console and in vim, as well as the correct control MK> codes, and I'd imagine the same might be true for codepages. i was never able to create any of the CP437 characters greater than 127 until i enabled the ""blended"" character modifier key and then learned a little bit about how to do it properly... MK> This being a native uft8 enviroment makes things much easier when that MK> is the goal. i don't know what condition this console is in... i tried a lot of things to try to get CP437 working so i could telnet or ssh into a BBS system and be able to properly display files with characters greater than 127 in them... especially the "box drawing" characters which we use quite a lot when drawing our ASCII/ANSI menus and other screens... CP437 spoiled a lot of us and it is hard to get away from it... MK> Also having iconv handy makes it extremely convenient to convert to 8 MK> bit codepages when needed. that's all fine and good except when we're trying to create nice screens for our BBSes... MK> However I try and avoid that since I have yet to see a 8 bit codepage MK> that has it all and I am greedy. ;-) if only we were all so lucky :) )\/(ark Always Mount a Scratch Monkey Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong... .... It's always easier to see the silver lining in someone else's cloud. --- * Origin: (1:3634/12.73) .