Subj : ain't gonna need to tell the truth, tell no lie To : Maurice Kinal From : mark lewis Date : Mon Apr 08 2019 16:26:36 On 2019 Apr 08 19:17:10, you wrote to me: ml>> what idea? using that character as a soft-cr in fidonet? MK> Yes. Are you aware of any FTN approved software that actually used that MK> character as a soft line feed? yes, as i've noted in this thread previously... i've seen a lot of messages with the "" spread throughout them... what software put them in i have no idea off hand... ml>> i'm not sure but it should be documented somewhere in the FTSC ml>> documents MK> fts-0001.016 states, and I quote; yes, i found that later... MK> So called 'soft' carriage returns, 8DH, may mark a previous MK> processor's automatic line wrap, and should be ignored. MK> Beware that they may be followed by linefeeds, or may not. MK> It doesn't say anywhere that applications that use 0x8d as a control code MK> are FTN compliant or even compatible. no it doesn't... MK> I'd guess by the above quote that they aren't given the 'should be MK> ignored' part. so someone using notepad as their editor is breaking FTN standards? i don't think so... any editor can be used as long as the result is readable in plain text (eg: cat somemessage.txt)... )\/(ark Always Mount a Scratch Monkey Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong... .... He doesn't have ulcers, but he's a carrier. --- * Origin: (1:3634/12.73) .