Subj : ain't gonna need to tell the truth, tell no lie To : mark lewis From : Maurice Kinal Date : Mon Apr 08 2019 19:17:10 Hey mark! ml> what idea? using that character as a soft-cr in fidonet? Yes. Are you aware of any FTN approved software that actually used that character as a soft line feed? Most, if indeed not all, of the fidonet compatible editors I've seen in action used 8 bit character sets - 99.9% of which were the IBM character sets, CP437 being the number one codepage - which would produce an actual printable character for 0x8d and never a soft line feed, not even the ones that see 0x8d as a control code, such as iso-8859-1. ml> i'm not sure but it should be documented somewhere in the FTSC ml> documents fts-0001.016 states, and I quote; So called 'soft' carriage returns, 8DH, may mark a previous processor's automatic line wrap, and should be ignored. Beware that they may be followed by linefeeds, or may not. It doesn't say anywhere that applications that use 0x8d as a control code are FTN compliant or even compatible. I'd guess by the above quote that they aren't given the 'should be ignored' part. Life is good, Maurice .... Don't cry for me I have vi. --- GNU bash, version 5.0.3(1)-release (aarch64-raspi3b+-linux-gnu) * Origin: Little Mikey's CanadARM - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001.2989) .