Subj : Re: Floyd To : Gregory Deyss From : Dale Shipp Date : Wed Aug 05 2020 01:44:00 -=> On 08-04-20 13:33, Gregory Deyss <=- -=> spoke to Dale Shipp about Floyd <=- DS> Did you actually look at that article with understanding? Possibly not DS> since you seemed to miss the point that a higher proportion of blacks DS> are shot by police than whites. GD> Here are the Actual Numbers You are trying to defect and not respond to the actual question because you cannot handle the truth. The quote was not about actual numbers, but about the rate of police shootings of black americans per millions of population. GD> 1441 more whites died then 778 black in last 4 years Not the point. DS> [quote] DS> Additionally, the rate of fatal police shootings among Black Americans DS> was much higher than that for any other ethnicity, standing at 31 fatal DS> shootings per million of the population as of July 2020. DS> [/quote] GD> Here is the full quote GD> Sadly, the trend of fatal police shootings in the United States seems GD> to only be increasing, with a total 558 civilians having been shot, 111 GD> of whom were Black, as of July 29, 2020. In 2018, there were 996 fatal GD> police shootings, and GD> in 2019 this figure increased to 1,004. Additionally, the rate of GD> fatal police shootings among Black Americans was much higher than that GD> for any other ethnicity, standing at 31 fatal shootings per million of GD> the population as of July 2020. True, you quoted a bit more of the paragraph which is irrelavent to the point being made, but is your deflection. GD> Let's take a deeper dive, shall we? with what the above text is GD> indicating here. 558 civilians having been shot 111 of whom were black GD> this means that 447 of these were of another race. That number of GD> skyrocketed to 1004, the graphic does NOT say it was by by Police GD> officers, Duh -- the quote is explicit that it about shootings of blacks by police officers -- why are you trying to muddy the water? GD> In recent years, particularly since the fatal shooting of Michael GD> Brown in Ferguson, Missouri in 2014, police brutality has become a hot GD> button issue in the United States. The number of homicides committed by GD> police in the United States is often compared to those in countries GD> such as England, where the number is significantly lower. With good reason, perhaps because England has stricter gun control laws. Also due to the fact that most British police do not even carry guns -- they don't feed the need to do so. GD> Black Lives Matter GD> The Black Lives Matter Movement, formed in 2013, has been a vocal part GD> of the movement against police brutality in the U.S. by organizing GD> "die-ins", marches, and demonstrations in response to the killings of GD> black men and women by police. GD> Black Lives Matter is a farce. <> GD> Rayshard Brooks would still be alive today if he did resist arrest. GD> Don't take my word for it watch the video how GD> this started and how it GD> ended GD> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhdpG2XzRXQ&t=183s DS> Except that the end of that 44 minute video does not show how it ended. DS> It shows a lot of discussion. It shows the officer administering a DS> field sobriety test (which Brooks passed much better than I could at any DS> time). Then it showed the officer putting cuffs on Brooks without any DS> real explanation. A shuffle ensued and Brooks ran away (not the best DS> choice I admit). From then on, we only hear sounds. Did you watch the DS> video? If you had, you could not have truthfully said it showed the DS> end. GD> You are right about the discussion just about 42 minutes worth. You GD> really believe that you or I would be given 42 minutes of time to try GD> to explain ourselves? In other words, you did not see what you claimed to see about how he got shot. And no, I think that you or me would have been told after about five minutes -- OK, walk over to your daughter's birthday and leave your car parked here where it is safe and causing no problem. DS> Other videos show that the officer shot Brooks in the back as he was DS> running away. Brooks was no threat to the officer or anyone -- which is DS> the critera for using deadly force. GD> This video that I posted was from a Police Body cam, what other video GD> would you be referencing. Several that have been posted and aired on multiple news channels. Did you not see them? Do you not know that he was shot in the back while running away? DS> Wrong. The cop fired while Brooks was running away -- shot in the back. GD> No you're wrong. COPS do not shoot at suspects white or black just for GD> fleeing the scene. That is exactly what was done. It is against any standard police procedure, but that is what was done. GD> At 41:35 you can hear the cop telling Rayshard to let go of the tazer. True -- not relevant to being shot in the back while running away. If you believe anything else happened, you have not been listening to reputable sources. Dale Shipp fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net (1:261/1466) .... Shipwrecked in Silver Spring, Maryland. 02:04:35, 05 Aug 2020 ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 --- Maximus/NT 3.01 * Origin: Owl's Anchor (1:261/1466) .