Subj : Re: Pandemic To : Richard Falken From : Ron Lauzon Date : Sat Mar 28 2020 09:57:00 -=> Richard Falken wrote to Ron Lauzon <=- RF> That is more or less what I suspect will happen. I don't bet a vaccine RF> will show up soon enough to cut this crap short. You're right. A vaccine won't show up. We do have treatments that are showing to be effective - hydrocholoquinine (probably spelled that wrong) is showing itself to be effective as a pre-treatment as well as a post-treatment. All we can really do is keep the health system from being overloaded. But I think we are getting close to that right now. RF> But until it happens, it sucks. I mean, I have insider information that RF> some Spanish hospitals are not taking old people in. If you show up RF> with sympthoms, they tell you to go to your house. If your are very RF> bad, they tell you to go to your house and die there. Ya, socialized medicine is bad. RF> At least the US is provisioning stadiums and the like for making RF> campaign hospitals. Our disease management consists in blaming the RF> prime minister we had before for the budget cuts in welfare while RF> miss-managing the resources available now. The finger pointing and blame game are happening everywhere. The bad thing is that will prevent an honest post-problem evaluation from happening so that we can put plans in place to mitigate future pandemics. My wife and I just watched a 10 year old presentation about this topic. It was made partly in response to the 2009 bird flu pandemic. The interesting take aways were: 1. Most of these epidemics were caused by domestication of animals. They have the diseases and by domesticating them, they were able to pass them on to us. But we developed immunity to those diseases and moved on to... 2. The next wave of diseases was caused by the industralization of the domestic animal products. We keep the animals bunched u too tightly and the new variations of the old diseases spread fast - and spread to us. The presentation (and we respect the doctor giving it) made a good case for going vegetarian. RF> I am sorry I am so sour, but it is depressing. The subject popped up in RF> certain web forum I am active in which has a No Politics rule, and RF> moderators essentially started punishing people who disliked the RF> current management of the situation while allowing everybody who RF> supports the current policies to spread their crap. Don't be sorry. This is depressing for everyone. I get my hearly flu shot and keep healthy, like many people. I'm lucky in that I'm still working, but many people aren't. And the stock market tanked, so retirement funds are getting hit. All the "leaders" can do is point fingers at the other guy and try to blame someone else. I take it as reality smacking us hard to teach us a lesson. With any luck, we will learn something from this and be better next time. .... It's not a BUG, it's an undocumented feature! --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52 * Origin: Diamond Mine Online BBS bbs.dmine.net:24 (1:275/89) .