Subj : Re: It's really quiet in
To   : Dale Shipp
From : Gregory Deyss
Date : Sun Nov 03 2019 09:46:10

On 02 Nov 2019, Dale Shipp said the following...
 
 DS>  -=> On 11-01-19  07:20,  Gregory Deyss <=-
 DS>  -=> spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: It's really quiet in <=-
 DS> 
 DS>  DS> But every thing in the whistle blower's statement has been borne out 
 DS>  DS> other witnesses who were on the call and witnesses who have observed 
 DS>  DS> background information of Trump demanding withholding National Securi
 DS>  DS> Funds from an ally until they helped him provide dirt on his politica
 DS>  DS> potential opponent.

This is ridiculous, this is NOT what happened.

If the president of the United States is made aware of suspected corrupt acts
by a public official involving a foreign nation, he has every right to ask
that nation to either investigate and/or produce any evidence. Indeed, it is
incumbent on him to do so.

One of the president's fundamental duties is identified in the "take care"
clause (or faithful execution clause) of the U.S. Constitution. It imposes duty
on the chief executive to take care that the Laws be faithfully executed.
President George Washington observed, it is my duty to see the Laws executed;
to permit them to be trampled upon with impunity would be repugnant to that
duty.

Whether it be immigration laws or finance laws or criminal statutes, the
president is duty-bound to enforce all laws. Failure to do so would be a
dereliction of his duty, as our first president believed.

This is nothing more them a attempt by the left to muddy the waters and claim
that Trump's actions are or were sinister, when they are clearly not. 
 
DS> It is even more ironic that you point to a link which describes
DS> Republican Congressmen openingly advocating breaking the law by
DS> publically publishing the identity of the whistleblower.  Not a good way
DS> to make your case.

DS>  DS>  DS> I.e., there was definitely a quid pro quo -- but
DS>  DS> even if not a quid pro quo, the asking a foreign government for help i
DS>  DS> his political campaign is a federal crime in itself.

DS> DS> GD> What Joe Biden did was a real quid pro quo. 
DS> DS> Joe Biden has been cleared of any wrong doing.  He was forcing the
DS> Ukrainian Government to get rid of a corrupt prosecutor.  He was *not* 
DS> forcing them to help him in his political campaign like Trump did. 

You need to understand what a quid pro quo is and is not. 
It's latin for; something for something. 
What biden did, was withheld money for the firing of a prosecutor - maybe this
fact wouldn't of bubbled to the surface if he didn't brag about it so... 
Is this who you want; as your next President, a man deals like that? I don't

President Trump did not withhold - arms, protection or money for exchange of
information or dirt on the Biden's. He simply made the request to check into
what happened. The reason why the dems want this sham of a impeachment, is
because they know that it will destroy them, therefore they must show wrong
doing of the President and they desperately do not want the truth about Ukraine
known and must continue their efforts to turn this onto Trump, when in fact he
has nothing to do with what happened. The truth will DESTROY Joe Biden and his
hopes for the Presidency and this information will have aftershocks that will
damage the creditably of the Democratic Party so horrifically bad that not even
Rachel Maddow will not be able put back together again, what was.

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