Subj : Re: Impeachment Inquiry To : Dale Shipp From : Gregory Deyss Date : Tue Oct 08 2019 00:08:15 On 07 Oct 2019, Dale Shipp said the following... DS> And, for the record -- I do not agree that all of the things you listed DS> are good for the country, nor do I accept some of the "poll" results you DS> might have pulled from a web site supporting Trump. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com That is the heart of the matter here, where I see the absolute good in everything that is a long list accomplishments and promises made and kept. Where you see have disagreement, and things that you have described as not good for the country is proof that liberalism is a mental disease. DS> Perhaps 60% to families -- but only those making millions of dollars per DS> year. That tax cut added greatly to the federal deficit and did not DS> help the middle and lower class income people very much. Your making the wrong conclusion because you're trying not to look foolish, or you don't realize that you are not making sense. I know it is a desire for you to hold on to what you believe as the truth, but the real truth is everyone started to make more the moment the tax laws were changed, it's mathematical. Case & point I was bringing home $625.00 a week before the tax cuts went into effect, after the tax cuts I was bringing home $640.00 a week for the same hours worked. So it was not exclusive to a certain group of elite people. I know it is / was hard for you "Never Trumpers" to admit that they brought home more money with this tax cut, but like I said it is a mathematical fact. DS> Trump has done anything he can to eliminate any thing that might be DS> associated with Obama -- no matter how much it hurts the people. He DS> tried to get passed legislation to eliminate much of the ACA. That DS> would have tossed millions of Americans off of their health coverage and DS> eliminated the ability to obtain coverage in spite of pre existing DS> conditions. Trump did eliminate the penalty which was a fine for not having health insurance. Stopping the government from sucking up or reducing the amount of money that is due to the tax payer in the form of a tax refund. Many people were very upset about not having that planned tax refund. I am sure that the ACA does do some good and that there are life stories I do not not doubt that, but it is not affordable for most, I am very familiar with the various levels of plans bronze, silver, gold, platinum and catastrophic plans and how they work deductible based with somw - co-pay vs co-insurance for more expensive plans. All is dependent on what plan is chosen, but I also know they $600.00 to $900.00 a month is really not affordable for most families. There was a lot wrong with the way it was rolled out and a lot wrong with what was said by Obama himself. Remember "Like your doctor, like your plan, you can keep your doctor.. that never did work out as advertised. DS> DS> The only reason he got to nominate Neil Gorsuch was because McConnell The President gets to make this decision, who they want to appoint. They still have to go through the confirmation process. DS> No new border wall construction has been started, despite his claims DS> that it would all be done and that Mexico would pay for it. In a since they are paying for it, as they are in debt to the United States for a lot of money, when I say a lot I mean tens of millions of dollars. DS> Where were those drug seizures made? I would bet that it was not done DS> against anyone crossing the border at Rio Grande or other inbetween DS> places. I.e. building a wall would have been irrelevant to those DS> seizures. What is your basis for making such a statement. I know where you are going w/ this; the wall did not have any effect here because your calling it irrelevant which means that you don't believe that the wall aided w/ the drug seizures. The wall stops people from freely crossing and it forces them to choose another point of entry. (try this real life experiment) next time you put oil in your car/truck don't use a funnel and then tell me again how walls don't work. DS> GD> Trade DS> GD> Confronting Chinas unfair trade practices after years of Washington DS> GD> looking the other way. 25 percent tariff on $50 billion of goods DS> GD> imported from China and later imposed an additional 10% tariff on $200 DS> GD> billion of Chinese goods. Conducted an investigation into Chinese DS> Who do you think pays for those tariffs? It is the American public. It might cost more if you continue to buy these cheap Chinese cheesy merchandise, so buy American and support your countrymen in the process. DS> DS> GD> (TPP). Secured access to new markets for Americas farmer DS> DS> You mean after they were devestated as a result of the Chinese tariffs? DS> DS> GD> to china for the first time in more than a decade OKd up to $12 DS> GD> billion in aid for farmers affected by unfair trade retaliation. It was the Chinese who backed out of the deal w/respective to the deal product from the American Farmer. I do not know why the Chinese are complaining? or why they feel or why it is so hard to understand? That the trade is unfair, Chinese made products flow into the U.S. at 4% tariff and American made products producers are sucker punched with a 25% tariff in China. How is that fare? W/ respect to the American farm product South America is now getting Farm product from the North American (U.S. Farmer) that also is new. DS> Plus, he withheld funds for DS> military support until Ukraine gave him a statement that they would DS> investigate Hunter Biden. No, Trump never did hold anything back as there never was any quid pro quo! I know that is what the left wing media is trying to sell, but that only works with the weak minded. . ______ ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ _[]_³³Äij³ ³ Fidonet ³ ³FSX Net³ ³ Another Message ³ { NET 267 ³ ³1:267/150³ ³21:1/127³ ³ by Gregory ³ / 00ÄÄÄÄ00'-¨€ÀÄ00ÄÄÄ00ÄÙ¨€ÀÄ00ÄÄ00ÄÙ¨€ÀÄÄÄ00ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ00ÄÄÄÙ --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/64) * Origin: Capital Station BBS * telnet://csbbs.dyndns.org * (1:267/150) .