Subj : Elections
To   : GERHARD STRANGAR
From : BOB ACKLEY
Date : Thu Aug 01 2019 11:46:54

> Am 29 Jul 19  17:19:28 schrob BOB ACKLEY an ALL  zum Thema 
> <Elections>
> 
> BA> Over the past twenty years in 
> BA> the United State there have been myriad occurrences of election 
fraud; 
> BA> years ago one precinct reported over 300 votes cast on election 
day, 
> BA> but then the ballot box was opened later there were only fifty 
ballots 
> BA> in it.  Unfortunately that was not an isolated occurrence, many 
> BA> precincts have reported more votes cast than people who actually 
voted.
> 
> Isn't all of this public?

It's supposed to be.

> I don't know how it works in the USA, but don't you have volunteers 
from
> multiple parties in the polling stations? Don't they have to show the 
empty
> ballot boxes to everyone before voting starts?

I don't know.

 Don't they sit there until all
> stations close and make sure everyone just puts one ballot into the 
box?

Supposedly.

 Don't
> they sort and check them all together in public and then - also in 
public -
> count them twice by different persons?

I don't know.

 Don't the results get published for
> every polling station?

Not around here.  Results are published for the whole county at one 
time, there's no breakout by precinct or polling station.

> BA> Another problem with elections in this country is voter 
suppression.  
> BA> Some suppression is done by local officials, but in my view a 
bigger 
> BA> problem is people who hang around polling places for the purpose 
of 
> BA> intimidating voters.
> 
> And by not voting, they would intimidate the ones that you want to 
select
> randomly.
> 
> BA> Yet another problem with elections in this country is the fact 
that 
> BA> politicians literally buy peoples' votes by promising them all 
sorts 
> BA> of "free" government "benefits."
> 
> Don't they lie about that?

Politicians lie about EVERYTHING, all the time.

> BA> Some people, particularly but not exclusively those of the 
leftist 
> BA> persuasion, refuse to accept the results of elections
> 
> And rolling dice would be more likely to be accepted? I doubt it.
> 
> BA> If elections are no longer the best method of selecting public 
> BA> officials, how should we do it?  My personal preference is to 
eliminate 
> BA> elections entirely and adopt a random selection process that 
selectes 
> BA> citizens from within the jurisdiction of the office to serve in 
the 
> BA> position for one and only one term of office.
> 
> I thought you wanted to come up with having the people make every 
decision by
> themselves. But random? First of all, how can you make sure, it 
actually is
> random? No one can verify if it was randomness that lead to the 
result. But
> assuming it was random, what if you select someone who has 
Alzheimer's or a
> mentally handicapped person?

They wouldn't be in the pool of eligibles.

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