Subj : Re: War or Planefuls of To : Dale Shipp From : Gregory Deyss Date : Thu Jul 04 2019 10:28:39 On 04 Jul 2019, Dale Shipp said the following... DS> -=> On 07-03-19 16:41, Bob Ackley <=- DS> -=> spoke to Steve Wolf about Re: War or Planefuls of <=- DS> DS> BA> It's odd that those who support the illegals are curiously silent DS> BA> about the asylum that was denied to the passengers aboard the USS DS> BA> Saint Louis - of course they were German Jews that were fleeing DS> BA> Hitler's government. They weren't even allowed to land, nor was the DS> BA> ship allowed to resupply; the ship eventually moved down to a DS> BA> Caribbean island so it could offload its passengers Read all about it and how it actually happened without the \ left slant. https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-tragedy-of-s-s-st-louis DS> I also deplore the passing out of smallpox laden DS> blankets to our Native American people, and the forceable removal of DS> their children where they were placed in English schools and forbidden DS> to speak their language. from Thomas Brown - author / E-mail: browntf@hal.lamar.edu Given the politicization of this topic, it seems necessary to acknowledge at the outset that far too many instances of the U.S. Army committing outrages against various Indian tribes can be documented. A number of these were explicitly genocidal in intent. It is not the intention of this author to deny that simple fact. However, as the eminent Cherokee sociologist Russell Thornton has observed of Ward Churchill's fabricated version of the 1837 smallpox epidemic. "The history is bad enough, there's no need to embellish it" (from G. Deyss) This is what exactly you (Dale Shipp) are attempting to accomplish. Once again pushing the narrative that America Sucks... Sucks to be you, because I will push and / or shove you back on this. It's up to you on the amount of force that is used. (Jaschik, 2005). That the U.S. Army is undoubtedly guilty of genocidal outrages against Indians in the past in no way justifies Ward Churchill's fabrication of an outrage that never happened. What Really Happened? The High Plains smallpox epidemic of 1837 has been analyzed by numerous historians. None of the previous histories have indicated any U.S. Army presence in the vicinity, much less any military involvement in genocide. None have mentioned a word about a boatload of blankets shipped from a military smallpox infirmary in St. Louis. None have mentioned any medical personnel as even being present in the vicinity, much less deliberately violating quarantine by sending infected Indians out among the healthy population. Madness has no purpose. Or reason. But it may have a goal. ~Spock --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/64) * Origin: Capital Station BBS * telnet://csbbs.dyndns.org * (1:267/150) .