Subj : For you SBBS Sysops o
To   : Dumas Walker
From : Accession
Date : Sun Jun 30 2024 11:53:46

On Sun, 30 Jun 2024 14:59:00 -0500, you wrote:

 DW>  (1) it happened here earlier this year
 DW>  (2) it had nothing to do with graphic drivers, as best as I can tell,
 DW> as I could see the screen enough to know that the machine was not working.

 DW> I remember the graphic driver issue days and this didn't look anything like
 DW> the colorful mess you could wind up with after an install in those days.

 DW> I suspect it has a lot more to do with them being more "cutting edge."  I
 DW> also suspect it had something to do with the messages about certain
 DW> packages no longer being available in the "non-paid support" release.

I would hope that may be more specific to Ubuntu, then. I guess I haven't really heard of that happening anywhere else, and I've definitely heard about the woes of upgrading Ubuntu plenty of times in the past.

 DW> apt under Debian and Devuan spits out no such messages.  They "just work"
 DW> like they are supposed to.

That's a good thing. I take it you're using Devuan now? That may be another one I might have to take a look at. I'm not really in the market for a GUI distro, but it cures boredom at times. :)

 DW> There has been some recent noise about something else they have rolled into
 DW> systemd that was causing folks issues.  Here, I found that on certain
 DW> machines, installing a systemd based distro resulted in unrequested, random
 DW> reboots.  Installing devuan made that stop happening on system #1 (a more
 DW> critical system).  System #2, the same hardware, required a GUI and Debian
 DW> proper was left on it.  It is not so critical and still reboots at odd
 DW> times.

Maybe I'm lucky then, but I haven't had a single issue with systemd in all the years I've used it. Definitely never had a Linux distro randomly reboot on me, which almost sounds more like hardware failure than anything else.

Regards,
Nick

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