Subj : Cobol/gnucobol To : JCURTIS From : Dumas Walker Date : Thu May 29 2025 08:23:00 > > I am a COBOL developer > When I started way back when, we had programmers, systems programmers, and > systems analysts. "Developers" back then meant real estate, construction, etc. > IDK when the techno title lingo changed. What's wrong with "programmer." Maybe > some geeks thought it sounds too geeky, so they found a word to make them soun > less geeky. > It's never bothered me to be called a programmer. Maybe I'll become a develope > when I change careers to real estate. LOL, now you have me thinking about it. When I first hired on, my title was Programmer/Analyst. As I moved up, it was Systems Engineer. It seems like "developer" entered the lingo when we started adding "distributed systems developers," which was not an official title -- those were the folks that did programming for (usually) Microsoft Windows server-based systems. It may have been, as more than one would later admit to me, because they didn't really know how to do the "bare bones" programming per-se. They knew how to work the GUI framework tools to have as much of the code as possible generated for them, and how to tweak it to get it at least close to what was asked for. Eventually, management, the business analysts, and project leaders got to where they called us all "developers" and the name sort of stuck. ;) * SLMR 2.1a * I'll have one brain on drugs with bacon, toast and juice. --- þ Synchronet þ CAPCITY2 * capcity2.synchro.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/Rlogin/HTTP .