Subj : the nothing to hide a
To   : Boraxman
From : Ogg
Date : Sun Feb 13 2022 12:13:00

Hello Boraxman!

** On Sunday 13.02.22 - 11:01, Boraxman wrote to Ogg:

 >> A lament on privacy from 1972..
 >>
 >>  https://kolico.ca/mpg/TGC1972-privacy.mp4

 B> Time to start pushing back, through example.

[...]

 B> The mistake was the "open internet", where everything that
 B> people did was automatically public.  We got to thinking
 B> that when we use the "Internet", it must be public.  The
 B> Internet is really just a means of conveying data packets
 B> from one machine to another, and there is nothing which
 B> says this should be visible to all.

when I first participated in email, I was amused that it was so  
easy to route one's email through any particular server that  
would allow it.  I believe the technique was using the ! symbol  
(bang path notation). The "net" seemed to be open to the finger  
command too.

 B> We've made ourselves not expect privacy, and therefore
 B> don't really deserve it.  Back in the 90's, when you
 B> messaged on a BBS, is stayed there.  Now when you do, it
 B> gets broadcast everywhere.  This message will be public,
 B> even though you have to get an account to post it, and the
 B> server (BBS) has to sign up to spread it.

The "narrative" from higher-up was not to expect privacy, but  
before then, I don't think most people expected to have the  
content of their email and activities on the internet  
monitored.

Convenience does seem to trump privacy though.  :(

Check out my post here a few months ago:

MID: 723:320/1.9@dovenet f4270dd1

 Subject:   Privacy is Power: take back your control
 Date:      Su 05.09.21, 23:46

The book outlines very practical steps that people can adopt.


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