Subj : Re: KICQ as an "Old New I
To   : Arelor
From : MRO
Date : Mon Jul 05 2021 18:21:31

  Re: Re: KICQ as an "Old New I
  By: Arelor to MRO on Mon Jul 05 2021 12:41 pm

 >   Re: Re: KICQ as an "Old New I
 >   By: MRO to Andeddu on Mon Jul 05 2021 09:28 am
 >
 >  > that's so fucking backwards.  you shouldnt have a limited amount of txt
 >  > msgs
 >
 > If you think a limit of 500 to 100 SMS is bad, then wait until you learn
 > they charge 20 cents each here.


that's like 20 years ago prices.
 >
 > The bright side is out ISPs don't block common service ports such as port 22
 > and 25  for home connections very often, which is good because it allows
 > residential customers to do a lot of hobby things with their networks that
 > American users seem to need an enterprise subscription for.
 >

there's only a few isps that block certain ports and it's not very common.
i'm on one of the big ones and they let you do what you want.  I only got in trouble one time when a guy signed up for a mailing list from me and then reported me to my isp as a spammer.  They checked me out and saw i was not commercial and then flagged my account to disregard any further reports.

http://foxriver.net/public/frn-rules.wct

"UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL OR BULK MAIL/ADVERTISING:
UNSOLICITED Commercial or Bulk Mail/Advertising Messages (UBE/UCE) are EXPRESSLY NOT PERMITTED to be DELIVERED TO or SENT FROM The System - PERIOD!
Electronic conveyance of unrequested or unsolicited mailings en masse or otherwise using credentials bearing The System's domain name or that of any other domain owned or operated by The System or its related domains and entities, regardless of whether or not such mailings are sent via The System's facilities, is expressly prohibited.

The System does not support, recognize or condone 'Opt-Out' concepts of mailings or conditions by outside or inside entities. Such assumed permission until permission is revoked methods are, quite bluntly in our opinion, - bullshit. If a party does not specifically request, accept, or grant permission via plainly written and boldly posted notices or agreements, any advertising or other communication from any other party, then it is unacceptable to send any such form of information to that original party.

So-called Opt-In concepts are greatly more acceptable and recognized by The System here on behalf of its users only if PRE-authorized by The User.

The System reports all abuses to appropriate and pertinent authorities, including but not limited to, internet service providers, registration services, abuse agency entities, advertisers, Real-time Blocking Lists (RBL's), and other such reporting services.

Persons or entities sending unsolicited commercial or bulk mail/advertising to any account at The System may be charged fees for such services rendered including but not necessarily limited to, storage and administrative fees and any legal or other related costs incurred. Payment for such services is payable on demand. Minimum cost for such services shall be no less than $50.00(US) per occurrence.

Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, p.227, any and all unsolicited commercial e-mail sent to addresses to any domain under this systems control and operation may be subject to download and archival fees in the amount of $500.00(US) per message. Parties sending unsolicited commercial e-mail to this account may be charged $500.00(US) for administrative fees for sending such unwanted mailings to The System. Failure to abide by these rules and conditions, and/or continued abuses can and will result in legal action."


I didn't get an invoice for 500 bucks from this loon, though.
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