Subj : Re: Neuralink To : Tracker1 From : Andeddu Date : Sat Aug 29 2020 09:57:57 Re: Re: Neuralink By: Tracker1 to Dennisk on Fri Aug 28 2020 11:01 am > I would say that humanism in general isn't necessarily a religion, > because it doesn't have an innate higher power beyond the self. But > it's definitely similar, and far more dangerous imho. Christopher Hitchens on Communism and Religion... "You're Joseph Stalin, you've taken over Russia. You've been educated in a seminary in Georgia, by the way. Up until 1917, for hundereds of years, hundreds of millions of Russians have been told that the head of the state is a God. The Tsar is above power, ordinary secular power, that he's the head of the Russian orthodox church as well. You shouldn't be in the dictatorship business if you can't take advantage of a deep well of credulity and servility like that. It's your golden opportunity, what does he do? Heresy trials, witch hunts, miraculous discoversies, such as Lysenko's biology. The worship of the leader from all whom all blessings flow, as I describe North Korea, the most religious state I've ever seen. This would also apply to Mao's China, with the same background of superstition and servility. Now for there to be a fair test about this, you'd have to do the following, and no one I've ever debated with has even tried it - you'd be the first. You find me a state, or society that threw off theocracy and threw off religion and said "we adopt the teachings of Lucretius, and Democritus, and Galileo, and Spinoza, and Darwin, and Russell, and Jefferson and Thomas Paine" and we make those what we teach our children, and we make that scientific and rational humanism our teaching, and you find me a state that did that and fell into tyranny, and slavery, and famine and torture and then we'll be on a level playing field. As it is, all you've done is show that the idea of worship and the idea of credulity and the idea of servility and slavery to religion is a bad idea in the first place." --- þ Synchronet þ BBS for Amstrad computer users including CPC, PPC and PCW! .