Subj : Re: Neuralink
To   : Moondog
From : Dennisk
Date : Thu Aug 20 2020 22:13:00

-=> Moondog wrote to Dennisk <=-

 Mo>   Re: Re: Neuralink
 Mo>   By: Dennisk to Moondog on Wed Aug 19 2020 10:23 pm


 >
 > Tradition does need to be question, but not discarded.  Tradition and herita
 > has two functions we don't appreciate.  Firstly, tradition within it, has
 > centuries and generations worth of knowledge, gained by trial and error, oft
 > painfully.  WE may not be able to explain why certain traditions or cultural
 > mores are the way they are, but they nevertheless behind them, may contain m
 > hard learned wisdon.  Heritage also gives us grounding, and anchors us to a
 > particular part of the patchwork of humanity, the part where we may best fit
 >

 Mo> While it's important to learn from the past, we don't live in the past.
 Mo>  We learn so we don't repeat the same mistakes.  As a society grows,
 Mo> tradition must be challenged as it is "the way we've always done it."
 Mo> This is tribal thinking.  It's like the son of the chief asking why
 Mo> they go on a traditional
 Mo>  hunt, when it is easier to grow crops and domesticate penned in
 Mo> animals? The son's ideas are new and untried, regardless if they make
 Mo> any sense. That's not the way they have done things for as long as the
 Mo> chief remembers.

 Mo> Heritage does not define who you are.  It defines the people before
 Mo> you.  It could be argued that everything you are came from them, but
 Mo> that is not true, especially if you have relocated to a different town
 Mo> or even a country.  I may have Irish and a good deal of Eastern and
 Mo> Central European blood in my family's past, but I am none of them.

But you are European, Western. You no doubt would identify with the general
branch of civilisation which is behind you.  As for tradition, traditional
socities do adapt.  I think there is a misunderstanding of what Tradition is. 
It isn't being static, not learning, not adapting.  It is a different
metaphysics.  Traditionalists (and I lean that way), believe that we aren't
necessarily rootless individuals, but have ties to the past, and the future,
and a concomitant duty.  Also, it is more a view that humanity doesn't move by
some metaphysical force "forward", which is the progressive view. 
Progressivism views progress as some direction with and goal, and end goal,
whereas Traditionalists don't believe that there is this underlying push
towards some system, but rather, we learn, adapt.  It is about viewing our
place in this earth as respect our place, instead of being to move towards a
goal (such as more and more liberalism).

So of course, the hunting methods of the tribe would change.  If something
works better, it works better.  But what I reject, is this idea that there is
some external "value" towards a pre-ordained social outcome.  We don't actually
know where we should head as a society, we don't know what we may need to do
next.

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