Subj : Re: Neuralink
To   : Dennisk
From : Andeddu
Date : Wed Aug 19 2020 17:16:57

  Re: Re: Neuralink
  By: Dennisk to Andeddu on Wed Aug 19 2020 10:16 pm

 > Perhaps, though I worry that a world with no suffering won't last.  I'm not
 > saying that people should be made to suffer, but adversity, hardship,
 > struggle does make people better.  Wealth and prosperity seems to ruin
 > people.  People have banded together in times of trouble, and shared
 > struggle does seem to be able to bring out good in people.
 >
 > Should we make a live worth living?  Absolutely, but we shouldn't think that
 > it can be done just be removing negative stimuli.  We need meaning, purpose,
 > to be able to interact and know the REAL work.  We want lives with meaning,
 > purpose, severity and gravitas.  A live eating and sitting comfortably with
 > all the entertainment you want is not fulfilling.  We want, and need, to
 > exercise the full range of human ability, to be a power and a part of
 > something, where our lifes energy shapes something lasting and important.
 >
 > I would much rather a world where I can work with meaning, where I can live
 > honest and true to myself, and be able to express myself freely and debate.
 > Even if that involves competition, struggling and coming against others,
 > there is a purpose.  A world which is controlled for comfort cannot allow
 > that.  No longer will humans be able to shape the world, impress themselves
 > on it and affect it, shape it, debate and express themselves.  They will
 > have to fit a mould, be moulded, and never brush up and push against the
 > narrow path.  Despite the physical comfort, the lack of "racism", this I
 > think would make people depressed, a life, while comfortable, has no point
 > at all.  Lifes energy going nowhere.

I believe we are a long way off a world with no physical/mental adversity. I
understand that going though hardship can create character, which in turn can
create a better person. There are, however, a huge number of truly awful people
who think nothing of causing harm to others. I know this is also a problem with
our judicial system, as it doesn't appear to deter deplorable and heinous acts.

Sam Harris talks of a world where there is no human caused suffering. In order
to make such a world possible, one would be incapable of causing unnecessary
harm to another person/creatre. Perhaps something like gene manipulation could
work in the future... from what I know, empathy (although still does not
prevent a person from killing another person) can mitigate the desire in a
person to cause harm/suffering to another. A high empathy population would
proper, I believe, and would be as close to a humane (and free-willed) utopian
society as I can imagine.

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