Subj : Re: Bleach Time! To : Nightfox From : Elf Date : Fri Mar 26 2021 21:41:00 -=> Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=- Ni> Not only that, but since Windows 8, I think the whole Windows UI has Ni> looked fairly flat and monotone since then. It's basically the same Ni> with the other major operating systems too. I don't really like that Ni> some typical UI elements don't look like what they're supposed to be Ni> anymore. The worst might be buttons that are just plain flat rectangles Ni> - Sometimes it can be hard to tell if they're buttons or just colored Ni> boxes. Another thing that bugs me is, on some Windows 10 setups I've Ni> seen, the default color for the active Windows Explorer window border Ni> is white, so it blends in with parts of the screen that have white Ni> (such as other Windows Explorer windows, web browser windows, etc.), Ni> and the Windows Explorer border will be hard (if not impossible) to Ni> see. This design trend drives me crazy!! They call it "getting the interface out of your way," or some other such nonsense. It's called lazy development. It's poor design. You cannot get the "interface" out of our way, we NEED something to INTERFACE us with the SYSTEM. That is what it is for. Since we cannot communicate with and control our computers with our thoughts yet (not to the degree necessary to do work in today's world) we need those buttons to look like buttons. We need borders around those borders. We need depth and dinstinction between one application and another and between a button and a field. It drives me crazy!!! One example I encountered in web design. I spent 30 minutes one day looking for a field on a form and could not find it. Why? There was no field border of any kind around it. There was just text on the screen and not until you clicked on the non- highlighted text did a faint borde show up revealing it *might* be a field! Our computer screens are not small phone screens and our phones cannot do all our computers can as efficiently as our computers can. Ugh. .... At least you can always use my code as a bad example. --- MultiMail/DOS v0.52 þ Synchronet þ War Ensemble BBS - The sport is war, total war - warensemble.com .