Subj : Re: laptops To : Nightfox From : Tracker1 Date : Wed Nov 04 2020 16:12:22 On 11/4/2020 9:23 AM, Nightfox wrote: >> True, but modern virtualization hooks in the processors helps a bit if >> you're emulating for the same architecture... that said, Mac switching >> to ARM won't really help x86 software in emulation much. > > That's one thing that confuses me a bit about Apple's decision to switch to ARM for their Macs. Since they switched to Intel, one of their big selling points is now they can run both Mac OS and Windows software natively. Boot Camp allows dual-booting between Mac OS and Windows, but you can also run Windows in a virtual machine relatively fast within Mac OS. I imagine you could also install an x86-based Linux distro on it if you wanted to. > > At the same time, I've heard Microsoft has a version of Windows 10 that runs on ARM and runs desktop software. I've heard it also has a 32-bit Intel x86 emulator so you can run Intel x86 desktop software on ARM with it. I think the biggest difference is Apple experience in-house with designing their own chips has improved dramatically with iOS devices and they have the confidence to have their own designs now. Not to mention moves to increasingly lock down hardware. As to emulating windows, or running windows apps, I'm not sure if they will work with MS towards better support, or drop the idea altogether since core MS apps have Apple and Online versions, and there's likely less use of Windows emulation these days compared to even a few years ago. For developers on Mac devices, Docker/Linux emulation is probably much more common and aarch64 support on Linux is pretty close to x86-64 levels of general support at this point. Even MS is headed this direction in extended support for WSL2/Docker integration being top notch, and would expect similar from Apple in the future. -- Michael J. Ryan tracker1 +o Roughneck BBS --- þ Synchronet þ Roughneck BBS - roughneckbbs.com .