Subj : Re: A new computer setup
To   : Arelor
From : Dennisk
Date : Mon Aug 24 2020 21:45:00

-=> Arelor wrote to Dennisk <=-

 Ar>   Re: Re: A new computer setup
 Ar>   By: Dennisk to Tracker1 on Fri Aug 21 2020 08:39 am

 > -=> Tracker1 wrote to Dennisk <=-
 >
 >  Tr> On 8/19/2020 8:27 PM, Dennisk wrote:
 >
 >  > Mine is 10 years old.  No good for new games now, but for everything else
 > its
 >
 >  > find.
 >
 >  > If you aren't playing games, I think you can easily go 10 years without
 > having
 >
 >  > to upgrade, especially if you are using Linux.
 >
 >  Tr> I think it may also come down to what you are doing, how patient you
 >  Tr> are and if you've had exposure to a faster computer.  I recently
 >  Tr> upgraded. My prior desktop was around 5yo at the time... I was issued a
 >  Tr> work laptop about 2 years ago that did a few work things faster than my
 >  Tr> desktop.  This drove a desire to get those gains on my home system.
 >  Tr> Since upgrading my home system everything feels painfully slow.
 >
 >  Tr> If it's all you know, and *it* hasn't changed, then it's easy to keep
 >  Tr> using it.  If you've experienced better/faster it isn't always that
 >  Tr> easy.  Of course another change vs. a few years ago is that what I work
 >  Tr> on often requires several servers/services in the background on my
 >  Tr> computer, usually spun up in Docker containers.  These all take
 >  Tr> resources and on even a few year old hardware this becomes a
 >  Tr> significant slowdown.  DB (pg or ms-sql), Redis, Rabbit, and a handful
 >  Tr> of things you're working on and it's noticeable.
 >
 > There was a significant upgrade when I moved the OS to an SSD, but apart fro
 > that I don't notice a difference between my home machine, and the new machin
 > use at work.  Maybe again, the tasks are different, but perhaps the only
 > noticable thing is that programs take touch longer to start.  But as what I
 > mostly am using now is a web browser, Syncterm, Doom level editor, Emacs and
 > Terminal, perhaps that is why.  I would feel the age if I compared something
 > resource heavy, like video editing, but I do that so, so rarely.
 >
 > But there definately is something here.  You couldn't get away in 2000 with
 > 1990s computer, or even in 2010 with a 2000s one.
 >
 > ... DalekDOS v(overflow): (I)Obey (V)ision impaired (E)xterminate

 Ar> Prety much this.

 Ar> I am making more out of my computer from 2007 than many people does
 Ar> from computers from 2015. It doesn't take a genius to realize that if
 Ar> your current old setup is not maxing out neither RAM, CPU or disk
 Ar> storage, you don't really need more RAM, CPU or disk storage.

 Ar> What really kills performance is PEBKAC. All my close family has better
 Ar> computers than I do, they use it for web browsing and office. I have an
 Ar> old potatoe I use for office, browsing, compiling and number crunching.
 Ar> And it is much more responsive than the new ones because I take care of
 Ar> it.

 Ar> Same with phones, really. A 99 USD Nokia that is properly cared off
 Ar> beats the life out of a 1200 USD phone administrated by a moron.

The software you choose, and how you set your system up is what makes the
difference.  The only thing I've really upgrades it the drive that I have the
OS on, which went from a 640G drive to an SSD.  I still have the hard disk, but
it is for storage now.

I shudder to think at the mountains of e-waste created, simply because people
installed crap-ware, all these systray programs, all these unecessary addons,
then couldn't troubleshoot why their system was not taking ages to start up,
and simply decided to buy a new one.  Some people would rather spend a couple
of grand, than spend a small amount of time troubleshooting or pruning.

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