Subj : Re: Quarantine projects
To   : Vk3jed
From : Moondog
Date : Thu Apr 23 2020 16:32:00

  Re: Re: Quarantine projects
  By: Vk3jed to Mike Powell on Thu Apr 23 2020 11:07 am

 > -=> On 04-22-20 12:38, Mike Powell wrote to VK3JED <=-
 > 
 >  MP> The Federal government issues guidelines here also.  It is up to the
 >  MP> states whether or not they enforce them locally, and some states have
 >  MP> gone over and above.  Actually, sounds pretty much like what you
 >  MP> described.  :)
 > 
 > A lot more consistency here.  The Federal guidelines are actually worked on 
 > a special Cabinet made up of the Prime Minister, state Premiers and territor
 > Chief Ministers, at least, so the states are directly involved in the proces
 > 
 >  >Here, we're not allowed to gether in groups more than 2 and nonessential
 > travel
 > 
 >  >is banned, though what's determined as nonessential (i.e. whether it falls
 > into
 > 
 >  >one of the 4 permitted categories) is sometimes up to the police.  The 4
 >  >categories are:
 > 
 >  MP> Here, that depends on what state you are in and, in some cases, what
 >  MP> city. Louisville is apparently being pretty strict on the gathering in
 >  MP> groups, where I believe the state level directive is that we are
 >  MP> discouraged to do so.  We are also requested not to travel unless it is
 >  MP> for one of the essential reasons but, again, in this state we are not
 >  MP> on as strict of a lockdown as others so I don't think that is being
 >  MP> enforced.  What is being enforced is the closure of several types of
 >  MP> business and other locations (like parks) in an effort to discourage
 >  MP> travel and gatherings.
 > 
 > There's a lot more consistency here.  As for types of business, there's a li
 > of "high risk" businesses that were forced to close - basically places where
 > there's likely large scale close contact or high people traffic.  Other
 > businesses work on a case by case basis, provided they adhere to the social
 > distancing rules.  Some businesses trade with restrictions on the number of
 > people in store, some have gone to online orders only, some have closed down
 > for the time being.  Many have added online offerings to their traditional
 > methods.
 > 
 > And some businesses in the "prohibited" category are still trading, by ceasi
 > only those activities that are prohibited.  For example, many cafes have
 > switched to offering take away coffee and food, which is allowed, but have
 > stopped their sit in dining.  Even pubs have taken to offering take away/hom
 > delivery of their meals, which is a new thing, because pubs are very much a 
 > in tradition for dining.
 > 
 >  MP> Within the past week or two, our city did pass an ordanace banning more
 >  MP> than one householdmember being in the grocery at one time (with
 >  MP> exceptions for those who require assistance), and the state followed
 >  MP> suit a few days later.  That is being enforced by the stores.
 > 
 > We don't have that one here.  However, the major supermarkets have taken it
 > upon themselves to offer special trading hours for vulnerable people (those 
 > a disability or aged pension, etc) and emergency service workers.
 > 
 >  MP> They have closed parks and playgrounds in some of the larger cities
 >  MP> here in Kentucky for the same reason.  I have also found a benefit of
 > 
 > Yes, playgrounds are closed, because of the potential for transmission from 
 > shared equipment.  Parks are dealt with on a case by case basis by local
 > government.
 > 
 >  MP> walking during my 15 minute workbreaks here at home vs. at the
 >  MP> office... it is not all flat here.  :)
 > 
 > Getting fit, are we? :D
 > 
 >  >The US is a lot more casual than Australia too, but while the restrictions
 > re
 >  >causing economic chaos, people are largely in support of them, as we are
 > seeing
 > 
 >  >dramatic effects on the infection rate.  We still have a while to go, as t
 >  >government is keen to avoid the "rebound" that has been seen in other
 >  >countries.
 > 
 >  MP> I am concerned that we are going to get a rebound no matter what and we
 >  MP> are just putting off the inevitable.
 > 
 > I think we can avoid a rebound over here with careful management.
 > 
 > 
 >  MP>  * SLMR 2.1a * clap on (CLAP!CLAP!) clap off (CLAP!)    NO CARRIER
 > 
 > Haha an old classic. :D
 > 
 > 
 > ... All's well that ends.

Sad part is people don't see the responsible side of freedom in the form of
self control.

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