Subj : Re: Various Things To : Brian Rogers From : Daryl Stout Date : Fri Jun 04 2021 09:22:00 Brian, BR> I have potential Net Controls who will NOT run a net because of such. BR> Using the internet typically does not allow one to properly hear when a BR> double is occurring and a good net control will turn down NCS duties BR> for such reasons. I tend to agree. Feel free to classify me as an RF BR> purist in this regard. Well, even when the local club has RF only (and I've been licensed 30 years, not starting VoIP use until 2006), it was extremely difficult getting folks to be Net Control, a club officer, or a worker at a hamfest. Everyone wants the glory and benefits, but no one wants the gall and the work. BR> We don't seem to have any issues with RF only... and we have a LOT more BR> hills to deal with than you do in the plains. Arkansas has quite a bit of hills and some mountains. Years ago, there was a hamfest held on top of one of the mountains...but it was a bear trying to get to and from there. BR> When you use analog you don't have to worry what any repeater is BR> speaking The thing about analog, if someone is kerchunking, there's no way to identify them. We had problems with that for years (and that may still be the case today), of an interfering individual who was mobile, so the fox hunters couldn't get a fix on him. With digital, the callsign shows up. BR> This has basically already occurred on packet. Name any station that is BR> RF only and you'll name a station not listed on any other. Also the BR> fact that most refuse to follow good network practices is another issue BR> that's killed it. Nothing worse you can do is to pull in a massive BR> nodes table in which 90% are NOT reachable to give a newbie the feeling BR> that the mode does NOT WORK. There are a ton of repeaters that are rarely used...maybe during nets, and otherwise, they're dead as a doornail. I think in the Arklatex, Arklamiss, and MidSouth, all of the frequencies for 2 meters, 1.25 meters, and 70 centimeters, are taken. BR> When that day comes, I'll be laughing like hell too Maybe those with the tube type radios might be able to communicate, but not much else. Talk about "Back To The Stone Age"...all that comes to mind is the episode of "The Flintstones", with the intercom in the doctor's office, with a parrot flying back and forth with the message. BR> Covid-19: free government's dream to install communism through Dr. BR> Fauci! He needs to go back to collecting bridge tolls Just like AOC needs to go back being a bartender. :P DS> Three things fail when we get older. Memory is first... BR> What did you say?? That's like the one in church where the woman tells her husband "I just let a silent but deadly fart!! What should I do??!!". He curtly replies "Change the batteries in your hearing aid". Another deal has this elderly couple sitting on this couch, and the old man says "My butt's asleep"...and his wife says "Yeah, I can hear it snoring". Daryl, WX4QZ .... Cinemuck - The popcorn/soda/candy melted all over the theater floor. --- MultiMail/Win v0.52 þ Synchronet þ The Thunderbolt BBS - Little Rock, Arkansas .